Fox Body Count

And another thing, Bill, those estimates by our government on the number of civilian casualties in Iraq - they're bogus. According to Newsweek and numerous other sources, ONLY those casualties that involve U.S. troops are counted as part of the carnage. All the rest of the violence (which probably adds up to about 80% of it, mind you) doesn't even make it on the radar screen. So, yeah, the number that Rosie O'Donnell (who, yeah, I pretty much agree with you is an idiot) came up with may in fact have some validity to it. Some validity, I'm saying, in that, certainly, the accurate number is somewhere between the 60,000 and 600,000 figures, dishonesty in the fabric of both extremes.