Monday, October 14, 2013

Niccolo Obama?

If (and I am saying IF) it can be shown that Secretary Hagel and President Obama knew that these death benefits to the families of fallen soldiers were going to be affected by a government shutdown and didn't correct it immediately (the President has discretion and could have solved this easily with an executive order) because they wanted the shutdown to cause pain and make the Republicans look evil, I would then have to officially rank that as amongst the most despicable and cynical maneuvers in American history. I mean, you just cannot play around with something as dicey and delicate as that EVER.

16 comments:

Rusty Shackelford said...



That POS Hagel has been in hiding since the dustup began....either he is a coward or was told to vanish.Since Hagel took office he has been to Dover to receive the war dead one time.....that was two weeks ago.You guys loved him because he voted against the surge...most knew he was a loser.

BB-Idaho said...

Hagel is no Rumsfeld, for sure...

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I liked Hagel because he was a maverick and a war hero and a person who truly understands what a war is (as opposed to these chicken-hawks like Cheney, Bush, and Wolfowitz).

Shaw Kenawe said...

Politico: By JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 10/9/13 1:21 PM EDT
President Obama "expects" that the situation preventing military spouses from receiving death benefits during the government shutdown will be resolved on Wednesday.

"The president was very disturbed to learn of this problem and he directed the Department of Defense to work with the Office of Management and Budget and his lawyers to develop a possible solution," White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters. "The president expects this to be fixed today."

Carney said the Defense Department had notified Congress before the shutdown that military death benefits would be among the programs that would be put on hold in the event of a shutdown, but that it didn't make it into the Pay Our Military Act, the stopgap bill to pay military salaries that Obama signed into law last week. It's "unthinkable that these benefits would not be available" to the families of members of the military, Carney said, and once the president learned of the lapse, he asked his administration to try to fix it.

The House plans to vote Wednesday afternoon on a bill to fund military death benefits."


Why didn't House conservatives have a bill to fund the families of the troops ready to introduce on the floor the same day they shut the government down?

Why, because they can't blame Obama for harm that hasn't occurred yet.

In this the conservative strategy is clear.

Harm first, blame Obama second.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I'm not sure that I believe EVERYTHING that Jay carney says (just like I didn't believe EVERYTHING that Tony Snow said), Shaw. Having said that, though, I am willing to give both sides the benefit of the doubt until I have an actual smoking gun here.

BB-Idaho said...

Pondering old Niccolo (the medieval
Karl Rove), he would greatly admire the concept of congress shutting down government, then blaming the pres. Yep, he'd love it. :)

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Actually, comparing Karl Rove to one of the greatest political philosophers who ever lived is a massive insult to the former but I do get your point

BB-Idaho said...

I'll have to take your word about
the ranking of Machiavelli, but golly there is quite a group of them. Why is that Machiavellian acolyte, Cardinal Richelieu not on that list? (The Three Musketeers wanna know)

Rusty Shackelford said...



I think Shaw gets all her information from the White House web site and then she quotes Jay Carney,a guy who gets paid to lie....looks like Miss Shaw is not quite as smart as she may think she is.

Jerry Critter said...

Perhaps you are pointing your finger in the wrong direction.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I'll tell you what, Jerry. Say the same exact thing and substitute the word, Republicans, for Obama and Hagel, and my opinion would be exactly the same.

Jerry Critter said...

Certainly the number one priority of all parties involved is politics. The American people are a distant second...if not third.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Makes me long for the days of Clinton and Gingrich...ALMOST.

Les Carpenter said...

Almost? I was not a Clinton admirer or Newtie either for that matter. But, I'd take them in a heartbeat over Boner and Obama.This government situation has gotten just that pathetically bad.

Les Carpenter said...

These guys get paid to spin. It is what they do. Put the best face possible on everything their boss says or does.

Yes Shaw, they ALL do it.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Absolutely, from the daisy ad against Goldwater to the Willie Horton ad against Dukakis.