Wednesday, November 28, 2012

On the Assertion that "People Like Medicare"

Well, of course they do. I mean, why wouldn't somebody like a system in which you pay in an average of $114,000 in premiums and get back an average of $355,000 in benefits? That's a total no-brainer, people - http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2010/12/114000_that_2011_retirees_paid.html.

17 comments:

Les Carpenter said...

The safety net we all need. Until the system comes unraveled and crashing down on the next generation.

Well, my guess is there will be reform soon. At least enough to kick the can down the road another 20 - 25 years.

Oh, that's right. Obama care is kicking in.

It only someone had a crystal ball.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Van Jones, that idiot former green-jobs czar - he actually went on CNN yesterday and said that there weren't any problems with Social Security and Medicare. There are some serious Democrats out there and they're saying some serious things (Erskine Bowles, Dick Durbin, Alice Rivlin, Mark Warner, Tim Kaine, etc.). He clearly isn't one of them.

dmarks said...

Headline: FREE BEER? YEAH, I LIKE IT!"


Van Jones is a Maoist. As evil a person that has ever gotten into the high power circles in Washington in decades.

Rusty Shackelford said...



Medicare is'nt the problem we should be concerned with.Our seniors who've paid into it should be taken care of.No one,tell me one politician who has even mentioned the number of people approved for disability benefits the past four years? Once you're approved...its a monthly check for life and longer.Plus after two years of the initial approval you now qualify for healthcare....you want to talk about a boondoggle....this is it.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

CNN hired Jones to satisfy the lunatic left (just like they hired Eric Erickson to placate the other side) and I consider it a huge mistake.............Russ, I hear you on that. But I still think that we have to address ALL of these entitlements and do it along the lines of what Reagan and the Tipster did. The demographics are simply too damn imposing not to.

dmarks said...

Van Jones is the David Duke of the Democrats.

Ema Nymton said...

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"I mean, why wouldn't somebody like a system in which you pay in an average of $114,000 in premiums and get back an average of $355,000 in benefits?"

96% of all statistics are made up. I know because I just made this statistic up.

People like Medicare because Medicare works as designed and works well.

A bumble bee cannot fly because all engineering shows it cannot fly.

The fact that the Medicare system works well seems to be causing those who want to believe 'government cannot do anything right', real problems. Medicare cannot be working because certain types do not want to believe government can do anything right. Certain types make up statistics to show it does not work.

A bumble bee just flew past my head.

Ema Nymton
~@:o?
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Les Carpenter said...

Ema's back! Delusional as usual.

dmarks said...

If Ema's definition of a program that 'works well' includes one that loses three times what it takes in, I wonder what she thinks a bad program is?

Les Carpenter said...

One the government does't run maybe? Perhaps Ema wll tell us.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Ema darling, the demographics are a huge problem regarding Medicare and it has to be reformed. I've defended you in the past but on this one, yes, your head IS in the sand.

Ema Nymton said...

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"... has to be reformed."

Then maybe one should talk about reform, chum.

Ema Nymton
~@:o?
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Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I'm all about reform, dahling. I signed onto Simpson-Bowles, the Gang of Six, and Rivlin-Domenici well before any of my colleagues did AND I'm in favor of means-testing for SS and Medicare.

Les Carpenter said...

As suspected no answer from Ema dmarks. Who would have thought?

BB-Idaho said...

Rusty identifies a significant problem . SSI diability has grown alarmingly:
it can be prone to fraud and is an
attractive way to 'make a living' for quite a few. Their 'return on investment' is naturally much higher than the worker retiring at
65. (Ironically, two of our local
Tea Party leaders are on disability, and they look pretty
healthy to me) Of course we see a
growth in disability lawyers, whose
paychecks depend on getting their
clients the deal of a lifetime. Sure, there are truly disabled, but
among the recipients are folks who are nothing more than welfare cheats.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Maybe if we had the people have to reapply every couple of years or so AND make it one of the goals of the program to get some of these mildly handicapped individuals (those with moderate depression, lone a-fib, etc.) off of the dole. Have it be a hand up and not so much a lifetime thing

dmarks said...

RN: Some people have a motto, "use your delusion"