Tuesday, June 2, 2015

On Joe Biden's Claim that a Two Gauge Shotgun Is Easier to Operate and Safer for a Women to Use than an AR 15

He is wrong on this one. a) The average shotgun would all but knock a small woman over and probably damage her shoulder. b) The fact that it only has two rounds before you have to reload (a process that takes between five and ten seconds) would clearly put the women at a disadvantage (especially so if there are multiple assailants). And c) there is a much greater chance of collateral damage with a shotgun due to the wide dispersing of pellets.......Look, I'm not trumpeting anything here. I'm not a gun-rights advocate OR a gun-control advocate (please, call me an empiricist, if anything). I would just like for there to be a modicum of intellectual honesty and common sense to be used in the debate, that's all.

7 comments:

Rusty Shackelford said...


Hey Will......there's no such thing as a two gauge shotgun.....10...12...16....20 and 410.......but,who knows...Biden may have something from the mother ship

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

They used to make them and they were like small canons.......I probably should have said 2 round shotguns and that would have made some sense.

Rational Nation USA said...

The 410 gauge or even 20 guage are perfect for those who can't handle a heavier load. And, I've known more than a few women who could easily handle a 16.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

To be fair, the parameters depend on the shotgun, whether its pump or breech loading [pumps usually hold around 5 shells]; and whether or not you're firing shot or slug. The garage matters as well. Smaller, less 'robust' men and women, struggle with a 12 gauge, but should have little difficulty with a .410.

All that said, Biden is wrong. just as he was wrong encouraging someone to 'fire into the air' [against the law in most jurisdictions], or 'fire through the door' [against the law in even more jurisdictions]. Biden is the type of fella who relies on the framed narrative that would attempt to trick the public into thinking that an AR platform is the same as a 'machine gun'. In short, on firearms...he's an idiot.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

I should have added....an AR is no more difficult to load, acquire and fire, than a shotgun. And Biden is still an idiot.

BB-Idaho said...

A 2 gauge shotgun (according to some quick seat of the pants calculations) would fire a half pound lead ball. For the fundamentalists, that comes out to 0.666" diameter. So, while it might be easier to operate than an AR-15, we can estimate
a 2 ga weapon would accelerate a smallish woman rapidly in a rearward direction.
Maybe even out of range of her assailant? Seriously though, there are some that
recommend the shotgun (of smaller caliber) because the range is less, reducing
collateral damage. From what I've read, it seems there is an appropriate self defense firearm for every expert out there.

Rusty Shackelford said...



410's and 20's are small bird guns.....used mainly to hunt quail..dove's...grouse.... I used a 410 for trap shooting and a 12 for skeet.