Sunday, April 5, 2015

On Restaurant Owners, Photographers, Etc. Who Refuse to Provide Their Services to Gay Couples Getting Married

This is a complicated issue because it involves a balancing of rights; the rights of the gay customers to not be discriminated against versus the rights of the business owners to do as they please with their own private property, merchandise, and labor. My preference here (and, yes, I've struggled with this one) would probably be for the government to stay the hell out of it (government does enough coercing as it is) because if you really and truly think about it, the party that is being harmed the most here, by far, is the business that's doing the discriminating! I mean, they're the ones that are losing out on the money and, while, yes, there's clearly discrimination, one man's discrimination is another man's money-making opportunity. And do you think that in this day and age, you won't be able to find a florist willing to service gays? Come on.


Jerry Critter said...

Would you also extend this right of refusal to refusing service to mixed race couples, black couples, disabled people, mentally challenged people, transsexuals, Muslim couples, Jewish couples, christian couples? How about gay business owners refusing to provide services to heterosexual couples?

Where is the dividing line?

dmarks said...

Complicated issue. Glad you recognize that. A distinct contrast to the crazy views of WD, who also can't help but throw into his racist assertion that blacks need special help because they are incapable of competing on a level playing field.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Jerry, would you go to a restaurant that didn't serve black folks? I certainly wouldn't, and neither would any of my friends and colleagues.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

dmarks, wd's solution to every problem is either government coercion or government confiscation. Kind of like the youngster with the hammer.

Rational Nation USA said...

I made my position clear in a post elsewhere. RFRA is legislation heavily influenced by the religious right in direct opposition to the wall of seperation between church and state. I stand by founders Jefferson, Madison, Washington to name three.

Laws that allow for discrimination against
anyone based on sexual orientation are simply
wrong as well as unconstitutional. They are
institutionalized discrimination.

If this continues (and I don't think it will) we might as well live in a goddamn theocracy. Just like Iran.

Rusty Shackelford said...

Jerry builds a strawman....refusal of service is not the issue at all.

dmarks said...

yes will. No wonder he worships Stalin

Jerry Critter said...

Read the title again. Pay particular attention, this time, to the words "Refuse to Provide Their Services".