Saturday, September 27, 2008

P.S.

I just thought of another beef, folks. It revolves around the concept of service. I don't know about you, but I get the distinct impression from some of these veterans (a minority, granted, but a vocal minority) that they think military service is above and beyond all other forms of service to one's country. I mean, certainly it's important - EXTREMELY IMPORTANT! But what about, too, policemen, firemen, corrections officers (try walking through a prison dormitory of 40 cons at 3 A.M. with nothing but a flashlight to protect yourself - try THAT a few times), people who serve in the Peace Corps, people who run nonprofits/charities, inner-city teachers and social-workers, F.B.I. agents, C.I.A. operatives, foreign diplomats, border-patrol agents, A.T.F. agents, parole-officers, public-defenders, etc.? Aren't their contributions important, too? Look, I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade here. If somebody served (and served honorably) in the military (and, yes, I would absolutely include the Coast Guard, too!), that is absolutely something that 1) they should be proud of and 2) we should honor. But, like I've said before, having served in the military doesn't give you carte-blanch to be an ass-hole 20 years later. It certainly doesn't give you the right to blow up a federal building. At least I should hope it doesn't.

84 comments:

Voltron said...

Speaking of "gutless punks", how come you don't have a profile up Nicky boy?

You can't spell correctly, then after 3 posts of a sexual nature you ask for a response to those same posts and claim their "non sexual"?

AND seeing as you either ARE Clif or mimicking his posting style and lines, you accuse someone else of not having an "original thought"?

You sure as hell ain't gave anyone here a "swirlley". Maybe you need to get back to your homework and quit screwing around on your mom's computer.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

If it ISN'T Clif, then it's got to be either Mike or Bartlebee (more Mike than Bartlebee). It's obviously someone associated with LC. I don't think that 1138 would waste his time or be that deprved. Clif is still the obvious suspect. Kind of sad, isn't it?

Voltron said...

Very.

Sorry for entertaining him today but I was bored...LOL

1138 said...

"But what about, too, policemen, firemen, corrections officers (try walking through a prison dormitory of 40 cons at 3 A.M. with nothing but a flashlight to protect yourself - try THAT a few times)"
and the others you list.

Valid points but different, ask the men and women that have done both Will, and many MANY do.
You have done neither and I find it cowardly for you to try and champion it.
YOU attack veterans, you've done it time and again.
I didn't seek your respect.
Based on your online behavior I don't believe you know what the work means.
But you seem to think that if you were to talk about a shin splint that I shouldn't give you more of a nod than I would a bank teller.
A military person knows more about military issues than a brain picking jock sniffer an that's a fact. Some one else here said it, and I've said it before, you've got issues you need to work out - the problem is, like lot's of other misguided folks you seem to think you have the right to work them out at the expense of others and without challenge.
You don't Will and when it comes to things like military folks demanding simple civility, not bowing down respect - you my friend (dripping sarcasm) are way out of line and should hang your head in shame when you are in public. I hope that person does know who you are because I've been online longer than the net's been public and I know that anonymous isn't anonymous (I've told you that before).
Things have a funny way of coming back on folks over time, even when they've tried to cover them, so if you think you've been cute, if you think this is a way to work out frustrations, be the big man you can't be at work, or weren't at school good luck because that's all you're doing is rolling dice and it's not the infinite odds you think they are.

Sad Sad Sad Will, You're looking for respect and you'll never find it this way. Flailing and screaming at pixels in the dark.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I've got issues? You're the one with the frigging issues, man; a persecution complex, clearly at the cynosure. And you don't know me at all. What, because I don't like a couple of on-line lunatics that happen to be veterans, I don't respect the veterans as a whole? What kind of a moronic extrapolation is that? And you're wrong again, pal. My first job out of college was as a corrections officer (where the hell do you think I got that anecdote of a 3 A.M. tour throuugh the dormatory?). And like I've told you before, I worked as a teacher with inner-city kids....AND SURVIVED! What about Barack Obama and Joe Biden? Neither one of them served in the military. I suppose you know more than them, too. Veterans benefits cover mental health visits, right? Pursue some, will you.

clif said...

widdle will going spastic after getting another truth-o-cution.

How typical.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Your truth is scarry, Clif, an entirely different dimension from most folks.

clif said...

I know widdle boy, it's called reality,

try dealing with it sometime.

Unless that scares ya too much then keep the don Quixote routine you have been on for over a year

Voltron said...

"I know widdle boy, it's called reality,
try dealing with it sometime."


Gee sounds tough. I can see why you'd give up Clif.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Well, Clif, if what you say is true, then 99% of the people on this planet aren't dealing with reality. This, I'm saying, in that's about the number that would find your little group therapy sessions over there revulsive. I mean, Obama himself would be disgusted by the tone that you ass-hole use.

clif said...

I mean, Obama himself would be disgusted by the tone that you ass-hole use.

Personally pea brain I don't need Obama's approval, I ain't like reich wingers who need approval to think.

I don't need to have the talking points to express my opinions.

So your the one who NEEDS therapy, son ... not me.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Only a delusional freak would think that I use talking points. I don't like either party or either candidate. And if you've read all 400 of my posts with an open mind (I know that's too much to ask), that should be obvious to you.

Anonymous said...

Son, you and open mind shouldnt be used in the same sentence.

clif said...

And if you've read all 400 of my posts with an open mind (I know that's too much to ask), that should be obvious to you

I have and I wonder how your NOT permanently committed yet.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I've changed my positions numerous times over the years (political independence has it's advantages), Mr. Anonymous (Mike, whoever). Times change, paradigms need to change.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Clif, I would be more than happy to have a panel of trained professional read both of our portfolios and decide who is the lunatic. More than happy.

clif said...

Sure ya would son, sure ya would.

I guess you get to pick the panel also?

Like the next couple of lunatics you hang with?

1138 said...

Starting the disabled veteran thing again huh Will?

Dude the SECOND you know someone has military status you are on them like white on rice.

That's the problem I have with you.

1138 said...

"I worked as a teacher with inner-city kids....AND SURVIVED!"

And you have a complex about it.

clif said...

1138 the inner city he needed to experience surviving is Baghdad, or Mosul, or Fallugha especially Nov 2004, or Beruit in 1982, or Saigon or Hue during TET, or maybe even Bastonge during Christmas 1944, ....


then the little fucker could talk.

1138 said...

"Veterans benefits cover..."

You don't have a clue Will, what they do and what they don't and for which veterans, and that's truth.
You lump all veterans together just like you did with the Tim McVeigh thing in your post and expect good veterans like myself to just sit back and take it.

We don't and we won't and we shouldn't because scum like you practice hate and public discrimination against veterans in public forums and in private as you've shown here in your little blog.
There are hundreds and thousands of serial killers without military service you don't see veterans going around citing the dirty no good civilians and what they do to each other. But you do see rotten little civilians like yourself cite the aberrants with military service any chance you can, to try and make yourselves look better - to prop up your broken little egos.

It doesn't cut it Will and if you've got the education you claim you know it, you can't claim your greatness by citing someone elses weakness, you have to stand on your own merits and your own merits only. You want an award for your service? Pin on yourself and move on, and quit crying. Grow up.
Lifes tough and things are like what they are, firemen rescue cats and surgeons repair colons. You dod what you do and you accept it's perils and rewards. Well we do, Will doesn't.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

1138, you're either crazy, stupid, or a bald-faced liar - maybe all three. You have totally mischaracterized what I said. In no way did I lump Timothy McVeigh with ALL veterans. I said I respected the VAST, VAST, majority of veterans. I even said I respected the fact that McVeigh, too, served his country. My only point was that, JUST BECAUSE a person is a veteran or is presently still serving in the military, it doesn't necessarily mandate my respect for ETERNITY. What, I'm supposed to respect that England bitch (the one who posed with a cigarette in her mouth, holding that poor bastard with a leash) as much as I respect a medal of honor recipient? We're all individuals, pal. And right now, I'm not feeling anything for you. Sorry and, yes, I think it's time for you to grow up/move on/whatever. P.S. My ego doing fine, numbskull. You're the one who's feeling soooooooooo persecuted.

clif said...

Sorry and, yes, I think it's time for you to grow up/move on/whatever.

Damn son you must hear that one a lot.

Lots of failed dates makes me believe your repeating what they told ya son.

1138 said...

"In no way did I lump Timothy McVeigh with ALL veterans."

Yes you kinda do.

"having served in the military doesn't to be an ass-hole ... give you the right to blow up a federal building"

You don't mention McVeigh, you make it serving in the military, making it ALL VETERANS.

I'm not nit picking words here, You're an educated man by your own admission, you know what words are and how to use them - and how not to use them.

There is no mandated respect for veterans any more than there is a mandated respect for anyone else - at least not in my book. I don't respect Nuns, Priests or Cops so you won't see me jump anyone for no bowing down and worshiping at the feet of veterans.
BUT I do not go out of my way to slander a group with the actions of a few as you just did here, and have done elsewhere.
McVeigh and England are aberrants and representative of the population as whole as much as they are representative the military or veterans.

Tell me how many convict do have your respect?

"crazy, stupid, or a bald-faced liar - maybe all three. You have totally mischaracterized what I said."

Will, I'm none of the three and have not mis-characterized anything, perhaps you should consider how you present things and consider the viewpoints of others and not just your own.
Mine is not unique, nor is it invalid and it is certainly not "crazy".

I've advised you as to what I consider your state to be and your inflamed words seem to confirm rather than refute that assessment.

What I mean is "My ego doing fine, numbskull." looks to quite the opposite from what you say.

1138 said...

You see Will NOBODY NOBODY _ever_ said that serving in the military gave anyone the right to murdaer civilians. BUT your statement says otherwise.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

That was not my point. AGAIN, my point was that being a veteran doesn't insulate you forever from criticism. Boy, are you one dense individual.

clif said...

Boy, are you one dense individual.

More projection numbnuts?

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

From a walking defense mechanism, THIS! I love it.

clif said...

Sorry son but what you DON'T know about the military could fill the pentagon.

You are one stupid fuc-ker.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I know that the military fucked you up. And that it discriminates against patriotic gay-Americans.

clif said...

Sorry son but the United States Army DID NOT FUCK ME UP;

A fucking war did asshole.

But the veterans administration does take care of me, and the US Government saw fit to make sure my pension remained intact for my service.

Why do YOU HATE the military and veterans so much son?

1138 said...
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1138 said...

Will, shows what you don't know again.
The Pentagon doesn't make it's own rules on Gays in the military, it's bent the rules as far as it can on gays.
The rules come from a civilian - the President, so turn your eyes in that direction when you shout discrimination because that's where the Pentagon takes it's orders from.

Given that even Congress could take action and push it's own laws on discrimination to include the armed forces, but it doesn't and Congress is the people supposedly.
You attack on the Pentagon is just another attack on the military.

Your point was lost when you screwed up by attacking all veterans, you don't get it.

Will do you see me name calling like you are?
Pick yourself up and use that education.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Don't hate the military. Don't hate the veterans. That's a bald-faced lie and you're a dirty stinking liar, Clif. Interesting, so you admit that you ARE fucked up?

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

And you "fucked up", 1138, when accused me of using the "racism gun". Clinton, back in '92, tried to get the military to allow gays in the military. He caved in because the generals brow-beat him. I'm not "attacking" the military. I'm criticizing them on this one issue. I'm not allowed to do that? Give me a break.

1138 said...

Not allowed to do what, be wrong?
It's a civilian issue the military does not decide if Gays are allowed in or not Will, it's the civilian command portion that does.
You really don't know how things work.
Again the Rule is set by the civilian command and the "Generals" as you so naively put it follow those commands, not the other way, just like integration of races in the military, so shut up. The leadership and rules come from outside the military, not inside.

As for "fucked up" try watching your dirty little mouth ok? I'm trying to be civil with your over educated ass.
Racism not a part of the current topic, so the fact that you are going back there shows that you are hiding from issues yet again, feeling guilt. In fact you've dragger it into gay military issues now which has nothing to do with your original portrayal of military members as mass murderers.

clif said...

Well will the veteran hater, if you mean by fucked up 100% disabled, yes I am 100% disabled veteran, which is why YOU seem to hate me so much.

Why do YOU HATE the military and veterans so much son?

clif said...

Clinton, back in '92, tried to get the military to allow gays in the military. He caved in because the generals brow-beat him.

Pushed hard by the right wing blow hards who attacked Clinton like Rush, Hannity, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Ralph Reed and assholes like Sam Nunn, Bob Dole, who used the generals for their christofascist agenda, and YES there us a very well planned agenda for the hard christian right to control this country like the hard religious right controls Iran.


BTW the ban WAS lifted numbnuts, don't ask don't tell means gays can serve if they don't outrageously flaunt their homosexuality, and the military is not supposed to investigate people just for being gay.

The idiots in the part of the political agenda YOU defend here are the ones misusing the agreement between Colin Powell and Bill Clinton NOT to hunt for gays.

So as long as you don't tell ya can join if ya have the balls boy.

The first Marine wounded in the illegal invasion of Iraq, Marine Staff Sgt. Eric Alva is GAY son and served in the Marine Corps for 13 years, which meant the policy did work.

Wanna try feeding disinformation again, to feed your HATRED of the military and those who have served?

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

More lies, Clif. You sure as hell can type, though. Maybe some data entry?

clif said...

No lies son I was IN the military back then ASSHOLE, and NO the VA says I can't do that.

clif said...

But it is nice to see a retard like you think they know MORE then a REAL doctor.

What-ya tell your failed dates son, "I ain't no real doc, but I pretend on the tubes to insult veterans."

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Yes, Clinton succumbed. No balls from him on this issue, obviously. As for "don't ask, don't tell", it's bullshit, fellows. Gay people can serve, but only if they stay in the closet. What kind of a civil liberty is that? Why do you hate the homosexuals, Clif (I notice you only make your homophobic jokes anonymously now)? Outrageously flaunt their sexuality? What kind of a bigoted characterization is that, Clif? "Dont ask, don't tell" is far more insidious than that. All it takes to get bounced from the military is for a person to say, "I'm gay". That is flagrant discrimination, fellows. P.S. I couldn't decipher all of your sentences (your a tad incoherent at times, me-bucko), Clif. I responded to the ones that I could.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I respect 99% of the vets/soldiers out there but, because I happen to find you to be revulsive, I hate the vets, that's what your peddling, huh? I repeat, numbnuts, your a fucking liar.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

What a paranoid, miserable liar you are, 1138. I NEVER, EVER, portrayed military members as mass murderers. I mentioned McVeigh only to point out that being in the military doesn't necessitate my loyalty to that person forever. I understand that Clinton, with a flick of his pen, could have ended this form of discrimination in the military. But he didn't. He caved in to the military brass. They brow-beat him with bogus issues like squadron unity and the fact that gays and straights would have to shower together (oooo, how frightening!). And, no, don't tell me to watch my mouth, fellow. This is my blog and I'll say whatever I want. I brought up the racism issue because you're always saying that I disrespected you first and to prove that that is yet another lie. P.S. I find your pop-psychology amusing. You might be better served, though, if you used it on yourself, instead.

clif said...

Poor poor pissy wittle will still cryin' after he showed he HATED veterans for some reason.

Clinton did the best he could given the way Sam Nunn and the christofacsists who are the foundations of the anti gay meme in the country force their views on everyone.

You seem to "know how" to fix everything but never seem to be able to do so,

sorta like getting a date then

FAILURE

eh will?

clif said...

I understand that Clinton, with a flick of his pen, could have ended this form of discrimination in the military. But he didn't.

The chiefs of staff would have resigned in protest, along with a lot of other officers, it would be the only way they could protest after Clinton signed that order.

Good idea at the very beginning of any administration.

Your so FUCKING stoopid it must hurt everyone you meet,

which is probably why all the FAILED dates.

clif said...

I respect 99% of the vets/soldiers out there but,

Not anyone who disagress with me,

99% of the veterans don't know about will's sorry ass so he don't hate them ... so he claims.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Thank you for making my point, oh dufus Clifford. You hear that, Mr. 1138, "the chiefs of staff would have resigned in protest, along with a lot of officers." It was the military that didn't want gays (uncloseted ones, anyway) to be able to serve. I love this, the 2 paranoid vets contradicting each other.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

And another thing, Mr Gay-basher (Clif), I've known a lot of vets in my life. I currently work with some, actually. And a lot of the residents in the nursing home where I work are veterans. They're ALL good people. You have to realize something, Clif. You are NOT prototypical of the veteran population. Most of them are NOT paranoid stooges, convulsing with anger. You really shouldn't make such broad generalizations, bro. LOL

1138 said...

"What a paranoid, miserable liar you are, 1138. I NEVER, EVER, portrayed military members as mass murderers."

Yes you did, you did it in this post, go read it I've pointed the words out. Read it like you didn't write it.

And try and calm yourself your becoming repulsive.

I'll say it again because you seem to becaome confused about your own words. this post does not mention McViegh and that's partly how you got in trouble, you transfered his actions to all veterans rather than mention him by name.

The Laws and regulations in place are the laws and regulations that must be enforced.
I was in Intel, blackmail is a very real problem. when those regulations that you as a civilian blow off as trivial dont get enfoeced someone gets blackmailed, and someone gets killed or the nations defense goes to hell.
You want those refgs changed there's only one man (or one day a woman) that can do it and that's the President unless the Congress takes the matter into it's own hands.
But blaming the Command staff is the utterance of an ignorant uninformed blow hard. America has a problem with Homosexuality as is reflected in our need for special hate crime laws, protection in the work place and the fact that so many states have created laws discriminating against homosexual marriage. So when you focus of the US military command staff as a singular problem, you show a particular bias that is to put it bluntly CRAP, a lie. I'm not stupid and neither is anyone else that is reading this, except perhaps the part of you that wants to fool others.

And I will tell you to watch your mouth, you are demanding civil treatment but you seem to feel you have the right to treat your visitors in the most vile and insulting ways.

It's about all I can do not to hurl the same foul four letter words back in your face but the fact is that I'm better than you - and that's the truth.
You take the bar lower and lower and lower with each exchange.
Who insulted who first?
Are you three?
Get over it man.

1138 said...

Will they would have resigned?
Some, a few not most most love the country too much the same threats were made over blacks and integration Cliff is wrong.
It's the job of the Commander in Chief to lead and the military to follow all legal orders.
Other countries have survived the change.

1138 said...

Oh and by the way "DR." please share you diagnosis of paranoid when it comes to myself.
I'd be interested to hear it.

(this should be interesting)

1138 said...

Don't forget this when it rolls under I've bookmarked it.

It takes more than a simple statement of "I'm gay" to get out of the military. Lots of guys are trying it these days.
Plenty are providing photographic proof however and until command put a stop to it, droves of female military personnel were getting pregnant and separating from the military to avoid second third and fourth tours in Iraq.

One thing you don't know anything about will is the Military and if you print and share this "P.S." post with those veterans you claim to work with and for, your going to get a reaction a lot like mine - but you're going to pay a lot more dearly in loss of face.

I don't think much of your online fakery either.
One thing I know is you're hiding behind that screen and keyboard.
I've been online since 1975.
I know how people get, and you're a classic.
You wouldn't and couldn't act like this in person (Cliff and Voltron couldn't either), me I'm the same exact guy in both worlds.
Get down to Atl. and I'll prove it. I don't hate.
Like I said before though I don't think you've ever been out much - if ever. You have the mark of the provincial written all over you.

1138 said...

I don't believe I've contradicted Clif, or he myself. You are quite strange Will - quite strange.

clif said...

(Cliff and Voltron couldn't either)

I don't know about duncetron, but I am this way here and in the real world, I say what I think HOW I THINK IT.

Yes it pisses off some anal people, but those who really know me know I say exactly what I think ....

and life is too short NOT to be honest.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

You're asking ME to "get over it", 1138. You stew more than frigging beef, for Christ's sake. I told you the point of mentioning McVeigh. I'm not going to repeat it. If you're too paranoid and moronic to comprehend it, that's your problem. As for blaming the "command staff", I'll just let Cliffy's words speak for themselves. THEY didn't like it and THEY would have resigned. Clinton wanted the discrimination to end. He was fought by the "command staff" (homophobia wins again). Let's see what Obama does. Hopefully he'll show some balls and won't cave in. What does women getting pregnant have to do with gays in the military? Another nonseqitor. My online fakery? What a ballsy son-of-a-bitch. No, most of the vets I know WOULD NOT be offended by the way I've dealt with you and Cliffy. These are modest people and understand that there clearly are ass-holes who are and have been in the military. You're the frigging simpleton who sounds like he's never been out of Mayberry. Get a life, will ya'?

clif said...

Get a life, will ya'?

Bet you hear that one a lot eh son?

1138 said...

Will go back and actually read my last comments. It's quite clear you didn't.

Read to you Veteran associates the following. Original Post since you are too slow to understand what I said.

Pregnant women has to do with that homosexuality is being used as a reason to avoid service these days.

You cannot read, you cannot deliver a diagnosis of paranoia and you are not the person yo claim to be.

Will I really didn't want to bust you, like I said a long time ago, EVERYONE does not lie on the internet. But you do.

I sound like I'm from Mayberry do I? Is that why I'm the one reduced to calling the person I'm having a opposing point of view with ass-hole, simpleton, son-of-a-bitch. If you ever had an education, it's been lost, wasted, turned to worthless mud by illness, abuse or injury.

No will I was born in a Military family, moved at two months old and didn't stop until I was in my 30's. I'm no Mayberry product but I respect those folks and small town values I come from small town folk. I'm rooted, with family all over the world.

You need serious help "Take no Prisoners" "paranoiacstoogetalk", you've got signs written all over the place saying so.

1138 said...

This is what you wrote - you don't mention one criminal - you lay a crime on all veterans;

I just thought of another beef, folks. It revolves around the concept of service. I don't know about you, but I get the distinct impression from some of these veterans (a minority, granted, but a vocal minority) that they think military service is above and beyond all other forms of service to one's country. I mean, certainly it's important - EXTREMELY IMPORTANT! But what about, too, policemen, firemen, corrections officers (try walking through a prison dormitory of 40 cons at 3 A.M. with nothing but a flashlight to protect yourself - try THAT a few times), people who serve in the Peace Corps, people who run nonprofits/charities, inner-city teachers and social-workers, F.B.I. agents, C.I.A. operatives, foreign diplomats, border-patrol agents, A.T.F. agents, parole-officers, public-defenders, etc.? Aren't their contributions important, too? Look, I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade here. If somebody served (and served honorably) in the military (and, yes, I would absolutely include the Coast Guard, too!), that is absolutely something that 1) they should be proud of and 2) we should honor. But, like I've said before, having served in the military doesn't give you carte-blanch to be an ass-hole 20 years later. It certainly doesn't give you the right to blow up a federal building. At least I should hope it doesn't.

1138 said...

no McVeigh in that

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I wrote it, I read it, and I stand by it. 1) I said a MINORITY of veterans are guilty of what I'm complaining about. 2) I said that military service was EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 3) I said that military service was something that a vey SHOULD BE PROUD OF. 4) I also said that we should HONOR a veteran's service. The only thing I said was that other forms of service should be honored, too and that military service doesn't insulate a person from ctiticism FOREVER. That final reference was to Timothy McVeigh (who I did mention by name in the previous post) and to Timothy McVeigh only. Only a slug or a paranoid trouble-maker would have interpreted it as an assault to all troops. Incredible. There, now YOU get some help, huh?

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

And try to observe your own "signs", huh?

clif said...

I said a MINORITY of veterans are guilty of what I'm complaining about.

judge, jury and executioner, and he don't understand why we think he's a little off?

1138 said...

Sir I read this post and I comment on this post. It is nice that you can finally put aside your foul mouth, but your defense is at this point and all along worthless.
I have been discussing this post and no other.

1138 said...

Will you posted those signs to yourself and others they are as clear as if they had been written by a state road crew on blacktop.

1138 said...

"an assault to all troops."

Who you hanging out with?
We have been discussing veterans - not all troops.

1138 said...

the word also would have been insult not assault.
Will, there's something going on with you, and it's just not right.

Anonymous said...

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...
The only thing I said was that other forms of service should be honored, too and that military service doesn't insulate a person from ctiticism FOREVER."

According to you McSame's military service seems to insulate him from criticism FOREVER..........you seem to put mcSAME above criticism while the lowly regular vets are fairgame..........typical Right Wing hippocrite with a double standard talking out of both sides of his slimy mouth!

Anonymous said...

You seem to have the Napoleon syndrome, or should I call it the Bill O syndrome!

1138 said...

And you stooped counting before you got to your sin "having served in the military doesn't give you carte-blanch to be an ass-hole 20 years later. It certainly doesn't give you the right to blow up a federal building."

Damn you Hart.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Idiot 1138, I used that as an example of how a veteran can lose my respect. If you think that I was comparing all veterans to McVeigh, then yes, indeed, you are extremely paranoid. I'm telling you what I meant. If you continue to persist in thinking I meant what your paranoid mind perceived, I can't help you there. Sorry.

clif said...

Bullshit will, I read it the way most vets would and you slandered ALL of us, and of course you'll never admit YOU fucked up by doing that.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

To the anonymous idiot (hi Mike, ya' stooge!), I have NEVER, EVER, put McCain off limits. There are numerous postings of mine in which I am extremely critical of the Senator. So, you're a liar, O.K., a bald-faced liar.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Clif, you're stupid and you're a liar. I expressly said FROM THE BEGINNING that I was talking about a MINORITY of veterans. You can't even comprehend this, can you?

clif said...

Yes son, I comprehend YOU HATE veterans for some reason.

Is it from the time the girl scouts used to beat your sorry ass all the time?

1138 said...

Hart.

You refuse to actually own you words and only accept what you claim to have meant, not what you have said.

Your mind becomes less and less of a mystery all the time however.
I don't "persist in thinking I meant" as you put it. I know what you said, your words are fact, plain simple fact and you deny fact - that makes you the one with problems, projecting intent where my discussion has been about the fact of your words, and your insult and argument about intent.

I don't fear you Hart but the people who depend on you daily should. I've got training and experiance you can only dream of, practical experience and you show serious signs of trauma and need to get help.
don't do it because I said so, don't do it because you hate or don't hate Veterans - do it because like a car, or any good piece of equipment all machines can go a little off and the longer they are allowed to run a little off the worse off they get. Eventually they break down completely when that happens the colateral damage can be extreme.

So do it because it's the right thing to do Will, you're off get checked up. I'm not a paranoid Veteran. I'm a veteran that you launched an attack against because you seem to need to launch an attack against everyone - particularly veterans.

Get that help and I mean that in kind tones, not confrontational ones.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I stand by my words, ass-hole. You interpreted them in a paranoid manner. I have no control over that. And there you go again, "I have more experience, yad-yada...." Experience in what, being a lunatic who wouldn't recognize nuance if it bit him in the ass ("Barack Obama or the highway, dudes. Think another thought and I'll brandish you an idiot")? As for the people who depend on me (the patients and my co-workers), I'm the one that they turn to, the one that puts a smile on their face. Man, what a revulsive, condescending tone you have. Get lost, will ya'? Oh, what the hell, GET HELP!!! LOL

1138 said...

("Barack Obama or the highway, dudes. Think another thought and I'll brandish you an idiot") - look if you're going to quote quote but this is pure fabrication. I've never said, or anything, anything even like it.

You're mental Bill, simply mental.

1138 said...

"I'm the one that they turn to, the one that puts a smile on their face."

Yep there was a guy named Gacey like that. I leave it to readers to draw their own lines.

1138 said...

there you go again, "I have more experience, yad-yada...."

Wrong again Bill, I have my own experiences, not more they aren't experience you have at all so it wouldn't be more.
That's what's eating your insides - somehow you resent the experiences of others and regret your own.

And that's that. You're walking dead, you hurt like hell inside and hate the living for it.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I'm an "unthinking person" for considering voting for Barr. You said it, ass-hole. Be a human and own up, would you?

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

You're comparing me to a serial-killer? O.K., it's official now. There is no level to which you won't stoop. Now if I could only make heads or tails out of some of these other word-salad nonsentences of yours. LOL

1138 said...

Wow. Look who cries like a baby after comparing all veterans to a serial killer.

So Long Bill "Just Like O'Reilly" Hart

1138 said...

As for "word salad: try one of your sub 4th grade reading level posts.