Tuesday, January 17, 2012
The All Douche-Bag Team - The Nonpoliticians Edition
Bill O'Reilly, Keith Olbermann, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Ed Schultz, Glenn Beck, Mike Malloy, Charles Krauthammer, Paul Krugman, Markos Moulitsis, John Gibson, Michael Savage, Mark Levin, Chris Hayes, Eric Alterman, Neil Boortz, Bill Kristol, Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore, George Soros, Steve Doocy, Brent Bozell, Jonah Goldberg, Bill Maher, Eric Bolling.......
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Noam Chomsky is a real piece of work. I recently dug into his writings in which he revealed himself to be just about the only person in the civilized world who supported Pol Pot's "Killing Fields" genocide.
Didn't he strongly support some Holocaust denier, too?
I don't know about that.
As for Chomsky himself, he said that the atrocities were an acceptible price to may for the good things teh Khmer Rouge were doing in Cambodia.
Another time he referred to the atrocities as "alleged". The same sort of langauge used to refer to the Holocaust by Holocaust deniers.
Also, if it were me, I'd remove Michael Moore due to my own personal experiences with him and his work. But I know that's not your experience at all.
Who to suggest to replace him with? Failed commentator Keith Olbermann? No. He is already on this list. How about someone also on Current TV, former Michigan governor Jennifer Granholm? Her policies were directly responsible for a major economic meltdown in Michigan and a much deeper erosion of the manufacturing base, and she still backs these policies.
Will, what's your problem with Chris Hayes? Is it just that he's a Liberal? Have you even watched his program? He has Conservatives guests and politely engages them in conversation. I don't know how anyone could possibly consider him a "douche".
FYI dmarks, the charges you're making against Noam Chomsky (which you've repeated here multiple times) are false. His critics have spread these lies far and wide on the internet, so I can understand your mistake in believing them... but they are not at all true.
Mr. Chomsky and his co-author Edward Herman simply dispute the estimates of how many were killed. Instead of 2 million, Chomsky and Herman say 175k (citing a survey by Michael Vickery).
Mr. Hermann, in a letter to the editor (NYT, 3/27/1988) says (referring to the Khmer Rouge as "villains"), that he and Chomsky "went to great pains to stress that there was no doubt that the Khmer Rouge was committing serious crimes..."
Your facts are also incorrect regarding former MI Governor Jennifer Granholm. According to Wikipedia, "Granholm's efforts in partnership with her economic development team have resulted in more than 653,000 direct jobs created or retained and spurred more than $57 billion in private investment in nearly 4,000 economic development projects".
Wikipedia also notes that, "while she was Governor, Site Selection magazine repeatedly named Michigan one of the top three states in the country for recruiting new businesses and projects. Michigan was also twice recognized by The Pew Center on the States as one of the best-managed states in the nation".
In other words, she was an exemplary governor.
To be fair, wd, I haven't seen his show. But, whenever I saw him on Olbermann, he basically rubber stamped whatever the host threw at him and seemed like an ivory tower black and white pseudo-intellectual. I can definitely see why you would like him, though.
What? No Larry Kudlow?
He actually doesn't irk me too badly. He has Robert Reich on a lot and they seem to be friendly.
Will: He has Robert Reich on a lot and they seem to be friendly.
Robert Reich has proposed an "extremist" and "destructive" tax rate. But he isn't one of the douches?
Will: whenever I saw [Chris Hayes] on Olbermann...
So, your dislike of him can be attributed to...
He's a liberal.
PLUS
Guilt by association (with Olbermann).
You should watch his program once. He's no Olbermann clone.
I think Will judges Liberals a lot harsher than Conservatives (obviously because he most strongly identifies with Conservatives, being one himself, even if only a "moderate" one).
Also, I see dmarks doesn't have the guts to defend his slandering of Noam Chomsky.
I don't base douchiness on one's political philosophy, wd. Mr. Reich seems like a very decent man.............I thought that the list was pretty darn nonpartisan. Of course I didn't do a headcount.
I just did a headcount - 26 names; 15 conservatives, 11 liberals. So, whatever.
WD carelessly said: "FYI dmarks, the charges you're making against Noam Chomsky (which you've repeated here multiple times)..."
All I am doing is accurately reporting what Chomsky has said himself. And all of my 'claims' are true.
Most of this comes from Chomsky's own piece in The Nation in 1977, in which he explicitly and passionately supported the khmer Rouge and its atrocities. He accused the media of having some sort of anti-Khmer Rouge bias, and denied that the atrocities existed, calling them "alleged Khmer Rouge atrocities" in his own words.
Here, as elsewhere, Chomsky's vicious and genocidal hatred of the people of Southeast Asia shows again.
are false. His critics have spread these lies far and wide on the internet, so I can understand your mistake in believing them... but they are not at all true.
"Mr. Chomsky and his co-author Edward Herman simply dispute the estimates of how many were killed."
In these "disputes". Chomsky knowingly lies about the actual numbers of deaths. He even falsely claims that they are 1/100th of the actual totals. This is quite similar to someone going around saying that only 60,000 Jews were killed during the Holocaust instead of 6,000,000. Rightfully, anyone who makes such claims about the victims in Cambodia, or in Central Europe is recognized as a total loon.
"Mr. Hermann, in a letter to the editor (NYT, 3/27/1988) says (referring to the Khmer Rouge as "villains"), that he and Chomsky "went to great pains to stress that there was no doubt that the Khmer Rouge was committing serious crimes..."
Actually, the record shows otherwise, as Chomsky wrote that the minor atrocities of the Khmer Rouge were an acceptible price to pay for the great reforms they were making.
WD very carelessly said: "Your facts are also incorrect regarding former MI Governor Jennifer Granholm."
Actually, I did my research. You got it wrong.
Under Granholm, the state's unemployment rate went from 6.8 percent to 10.1 percent when she left. That's a massive job loss, not an increase in jobs. Not surprising. Her policies forced businesses, many of them big industries, to close, outsource, or downsize.
The state also was the only one to lose population during this period, and the tragic depopulation of Detroit is a real big deal.
Then there is the scandal. Granholm endeavored to channel $39,000,000 to a big campaign donor. Tens of thousands of home healthcare workers were forced into a union without a vote (a situation which resulted in a pay cut for the workers, and has since been retified).
I'm in this state. I watched as she did all this. I even watched as she discouraged Toyota from opening a plant in Michigan.
"In other words, she was an exemplary governor."
Hmmm... just like the Italian cruise captain was an "exemplary captain". Granholm ran the state onto the rocks through incompetence, ineptitude, and corruption.
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