Wednesday, August 24, 2011

The Unmaking Dye

The way that I see it, folks, John McCain basically ruined Sarah Palin's political career. I mean, think about it for a minute here. If Mr. McCain hadn't picked her as his running-mate (one of the most reckless political maneuvers in U.S. history - but I digress) , she probably would have finished her term as Governor, eventually been elected to the U.S. Senate, and possibly made a name for herself. Now, granted, she wouldn't have become the celebrity/king-maker/erstwhile train-wreck that she presently is, but she clearly would have had a more tangible career for herself. Agree? Disagree?

15 comments:

w-dervish said...

I disagree. She would not have run for the senate, and (even if she did) I doubt she could have been elected to it.

Granted, morons can get elected to Congress, but they don't "make a name for themselves"... unless it's in regards to the bad job they're doing.

I'd also be willing to wager that Sarah Palin disagrees... and views being selected by Bill Kristol to be McCain's running mate the best thing that ever happened to her.

She has become a very wealthy woman as a result... which I think she cares a LOT more about... riches over the hard work of a public servant.

John Myste said...

Eh, maybe.

Glad I could help.

#37927 said...

Actually will, McCain asked, she agreed, so at least she owns half the credit for ruining her political career.

BTW, McCain didn't make her be less then totally honest about troopergate. Nor use her power and people in her administration to try to derail the investigation. IE like Todd refusing to testify.

McCain also didn't make Ms Palin quit, which is when her political career really took a nose dive. She was on her own and we all see the result of her being more or less on her own politically.

Even Faux Noise cannot resurrect her political career, no matter how much Greta Van Susteren tries, and it seem the power brokers in the GOPer club don't want that anyway.

They are coalescing around the religious wingnut from Texas instead of the religious wingnut formerly from Alaska who bought a home in Arizona along with Bristol.

So saying it's McCains fault isn't really quite right, he opened the door, SHE ran through and kept running, but for the money not office.

Rational Nation USA said...

Will, Palin may yet surprise. I'm not holding my breath.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Gentlemen - I'm basing my views here on an article written by Joshua Green (unlike douchebags like Sean Hannity and Markos Moulitsis, a respected journalist) in "The Atlantic". In it, Mr. Green states that Mrs. Palin was actually a pretty good governor who worked with Democrats and stood up pretty strong to big oil interests. It was only after the VP nomination that she started self-destructing.............37927, your point is well taken. Nobody held a gun to her head and made her accept the nomination. The problem here is that people frequently aren't aware of their limitations. I see that literally every single day at work. The way that I see it, bra, Mr. McCain was the grown-up in the room. He clearly should have known better.............I'm not holding my breath, either, Les. She's just too lazy and thin-skinned. It would probably be best for all if she just went back to Alaska.

#37927 said...

Or her new house in Arizona

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I think that she should have done a talk show early on, but one that only touched on politics. It might have been successful and, hey, maybe she could have been the next Oprah. I mean, she does have an engaging personality when she's not in that nasty attack-dog mode.

Rusty Shackelford said...

Why the hell is zip code obsessed with Palin buying a house in Arizona? Its america,she can go where ever the hell she wants.She made her money honestly,let her enjoy the fruits.I can never quite understand why liberals detest successful people.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I can only speak for me, Russ. a) I don't detest Palin (I even defended the woman for a while) and b) I don't detest successful people (I think that the country needs MORE people like Steve Jobs and Warren Buffett). My beef with Palin is her thin-skin, paranoia, divisiveness, and limited grasp of the issues. That's it.

Voltron said...

Considering the number and the vitriol of the attacks against her I'd like to see how thick YOUR skin would be Will. Defending yourself against unjust attacks doesn't make you thin skinned either.

As far as paranoia goes, it ain't paranoia if they REALLY ARE out to get you.

Prisons are divisive too and I don't hear you arguing against those. Sometimes division is NECESSARY.

And she also has a better grasp of the issues than most of us on this board. She's been unfairly attacked and maligned by the media unmercifully. She did quite well for Alaska while governor dealing not only with the good ol boy network in her own party but dealing with the oil companies as well. Until the mainstream media took notice of her she had about a 90% approval rating in Alaska...

Voltron said...

And much like Cliffy used to, you also called her a bimbo recently if memory serves.

So you're basically just jumping on the bandwagon here and I thought you were an independent thinker?

Read about her record in Alaska BEFORE McCain chose her, and before the media dumpster divers zeroed in on Wasilla.

What do you think would've happened if there had been that many trying to dig up dirt on Barry?

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Volt, check the 5th comment in this thread. I acknowledge the fact that she had been doing a good job in Alaska. It was only AFTER the nomination that the self destruction started occurring. The woman, in my opinion, wasn't ready for prime time. And I've watched her on numerous occasions. This individual isn't even remotely Ronald Reagan. Reagan read and read and read and read and eventually came up with his own coherent philosophy of governing. Mrs. Palin isn't even close to getting past the platitudinous stage at this point. Maybe she will some day. But like Les said earlier, we shouldn't be holding our breath here.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Did I really call her a bimbo? Do you have any idea where? I certainly don't want to be put into the same category as Clif.

Voltron said...

Apologies Will,

It was Christine O'donnell...

My bad.

(of course I'm sure WD will still call you a misogynist for that. :)

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I'll tell you what, Volt, what if I now refer to Chris Matthews as a mimbo? Would not THAT even things out a bit (not just gender-wise but ideologically, too)? Yes? No?