Saturday, August 24, 2013

Sneaky Peat

According to a 2001 study by Siegert, et. al, in  "Nature" magazine, the widespread peat fires in Indonesia during the 1997-1998 El Nino released 1-2 billion tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere. NONE OF THIS has been figured into any of the IPCC's models or calculations. Gee, what a huge surprise.

12 comments:

D. Luthor said...

IPCC keep it coming. A clown car of dubious conclusions, bad evidence, and inversion of the scientific method.

Jerry Critter said...

Considering that global CO2 emissions are around 30 billion tons per year, missing 1 or 2 billion tons about 15 years ago is not such a big deal.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Jerry, total carbon emissions from fossil fuel is less than 9 billion tonnes a year (http://cdiac.ornl.gov/CO2_Emission/timeseries/global) and so if you took the highest estimate of the Indonesian peat fires (2.6 billion tonnes) that would constitute close to 30% of that.

Jerry Critter said...

You said "released 1-2 billion tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere", NOT carbon. 2010 CO2 emissions was 36.7 billion metric tons.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I reread the sources and the fires in 1997-1998 released .81 to 2.57 billion tons of carbon into the atmosphere. The authors went on to state that this represented 13-40% of the mean annual emissions from fossil fuels. So it was carbon, not carbon dioxide. The second source was Page, et. al. (2002) - "Nature".

Jerry Critter said...

Your correction is noted.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Sorry about the confusion.

Dervish Sanders said...

Will Hart tried to pull a fast one but Jerry caught him on it.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

It's called a mistake, wd. And what's the fast one when the mistake that I made cheated on my own point. The accurate term in the 2 articles is carbon and it is that that potentially reaches the 30% mark. Hello.

D. Luthor said...

Will: let's see WD own up to mistakes. Remember the one on public sector unions and FDR?

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...



99.99999999% of the people who have read that FDR piece have conceded that FDR was opposed to collective bargaining for government workers (as were George Meany, Jimmy Carter, and Fiorello LaGuardia). Only wd and a spate of others have persisted in denying this reality.

D. Luthor said...

Maybe WD is is privy to the proclamations of "Bizarro FDR" ?