Wednesday, November 19, 2014

On the Treblinka Narrative, Continued

Another part of the narrative that doesn't make sense is the burial part. According Yitzhak Arad's book on the Reinhard camps (Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec), each corpse that was buried took up approximately .34 cubic meters. The problem here is that if you take this number and multiply it by the 750,000 bodies that were supposedly buried at Treblinka, you come up with 255,000 cubic meters, a number that would have been significantly greater than the 45,000 cubic meters for burial which show up on literally every map of the place (11,250 cubic meters times the four areas which were designated for burial). Yes, there possibly could have been other burial sites but there is no written record of this that I'm aware of and no eye-witness testimony to support it..........................................................................................P.S. The 11,250 figure is derived from multiplying 50 meters (the supposed length) times 25 meters (the supposed width) times 9 meters (the supposed depth)....And it should also be stated here that the 9 meter figure (an actual depth of 10 meters minus the 1 meter of sand for covering) is more than likely an exaggeration in that at that depth water generally would be a problem (other big problems of course would be the wind and the rain, the astronomical amount of wood that would have been necessary to accomplish the task, the fact that the grates were the type that couldn't have been lowered to accommodate the flame, the fact that a shitload of trees were in close proximity to the cremation site, etc., etc.).

4 comments:

dmarks said...

As long as your sources aren't pro-Holocaust "thinkers" like Norm Finkelstein and Pat Buchanan.

BB-Idaho said...

Some sources indicate that the Treblinka mass graves were exhumed--
"Jewish slave-labour units called Sonderkommandos, forced to bury the victims' bodies in mass graves. These bodies were exhumed in 1943 and then cremated on massive open-air pyres along with the bodies of new victims." --the ash of 700-800,000 dead being far less voluminous. Treblinka used oxygen starved diesels to pump carbon monoxide into the chambers. The efficient operation turned over several groups of up to 2000 in the course of the 24/7 operation, the labor being performed by inmates who transferred them to the mass crematory.
A fair source is Nora Levin's detailed country by country history. 'The Holocaust' published in 1968.
While we may quibble over detail, we note that the 1933 census had 9.5 million Jews in Europe:
in 1950 it was 3.1 million (of those were 2 million of still in the Soviet Union), and hundreds of thousands had left for the US, South America, Canada and Israel. So 6 million disappeared.
Less press is given to the Gypsies lost in the camp operations and the million or so captured Russian
POWs. The numbers are horrifying, the details hideous.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

a) They still had to bury 750,000 bodies and there just wasn't enough burial space to accomplish that. b) Open air cremation just doesn't work - at least not the way that has been alleged; grates that do not move, bodies stacked 30 high, no mention of anybody tending the fires, etc.. c) Oxygen starved diesels? Really, when they also had thousands and thousands of wood fired generators that would have been far more efficient? And d) the 6 million figure is a number that was taken out of folk lore (multiple mentions of it from 1900 to the end of the war) and from a 1943 (while the war was still going on) book by Hollywood writer, Ben Hecht.

dmarks said...

Do the totals include the huge numbers killed outside of the formalized camp system?

"Inside the Soviet Union were an estimated three million Jews, many of whom still lived in tiny isolated villages known as Shtetls. Following behind the invading German armies, four SS special action units known as Einsatzgruppen systematically rounded-up and shot all of the inhabitants of these Shtetls"

- http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/holocaust.htm