Saturday, January 26, 2013

On the Idiotic Notion that the Global Warming Skeptics are Anti-Science

It's absurd. They're not the ones who've a) ignored the geological record, b) constantly mistaken cause with effect, c) ignored the satellite data, d) ignored the radiosonde balloon data, e) failed to understand the basic law of inverse solubility, f) played with and hid the data, g) utilized climate models which violated the basic principles of forecasting AND WHICH PROVED WRONG, g) failed to even entertain the notion of alternative causes (plate tectonics, underwater volcanoes, cosmic rays, sunspot cycles, the Pacific Decodal Oscillation, lunar cycles, increases in the solar field, cloud cover, etc.), h) conspired and thoroughly corrupted the entire peer-review process, i) failed to understand the logarithmic nature of the CO2/warming relationship, j) failed to understand that the earth's climate is a nonlinear, dynamic, and chaotic system which cannot be readily reduced to the workings of A theory......................................................................And the fact that skepticism is itself such an integral part of science, that alone should have set off firecrackers. "The science is settled/the debate is over." LMFAO                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

8 comments:

BB-Idaho said...

Might as well do away with science altogether..perhaps start in high places ?

dmarks said...

The Climategate guy sure got rid of a lot of science, too.

BB-Idaho said...

Still sorting it out..lessee here,
we've got the science, the anti-science, politics and religion...
nicely wrapped up by the Discovery Institute .

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I would personally not conflate those 2, BB. Yeah, there are some idiots on the denial side but there are also a lot of astrophysicists, meteorologists, geologists, astronomers, engineers, and oceanographers.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Satellite data has the temp going up approximately .3 degrees over the past 34 years and a lot of that was mainly El Nino. This same satellite data does not show a "positive feedback", either. It really does appear that the emperor has no clothes here.......There, now can we try and clean up that plastic island in the Pacific and get rid of malaria in Africa - you know, real problems with real solutions.

BB-Idaho said...

IMO, some of the problems with GW
are that there are a large number of variables, some of which may
not be fully understood, or even
known. Couple that with a situation where we have a sort of
history, a narrow time window (of a lifetime, say) trying to predict
a long term series of atmospheric
and oceanic results. Understandably, there will be scientists that disagree. That is
the way science works. IMO, humans
have been capable of environmental
damage, extinction of some species etc. We are a very successful species and we have mutliplied
exponentially. There is no reason to believe we cannot cause problems...and no reason to believe we cannot adapt or fix
problems. I am no chicken little,
nor proponent of big spending on the issue. I am a proponent of
more and better research and understanding. IMO, we will see
stronger storms, more bizarre weather over the next dozens of decades...but I'm too old to be
around to say "Gosh I was wrong"
or "Toldja so". Given the advances in technology, there is a probablity that we may be able to
control earth temperatures by some
means in the future. All sort of interesting, though.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I'm OK with most of what you just said (and we definitely DID clean up the environment in the '70s and '80s). I would just counter that by adding that 90% of the species that have become extinct during the planet's history became extinct prior to our (hominids) even being here ("Time Before History", Colin Tudge - great book!). The earth is going to be just fine. It's us that I'm truly worried about.

dmarks said...

" "The science is settled/the debate is over."

So said the guys who claimed that geese were born from ocean barnacles. And the guys who said the Earth was the center of the universe.

Or the wide variety of people who use these ideas to prove the superiority of the master race.

Yes, the debate is over. Let's not let something so vulgar as real world scientific evidence penetrate the ivory tower and pollute the purity of these amazing simple theories.