tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post312265253741510371..comments2023-08-24T07:27:12.657-07:00Comments on Contra O'Reilly: On the Idiotic Notion that the Global Warming Skeptics are Anti-ScienceWill "take no prisoners" Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-42097222598148661842013-01-28T05:31:35.705-08:002013-01-28T05:31:35.705-08:00" "The science is settled/the debate is ..." "The science is settled/the debate is over."<br /><br />So said the guys who claimed that <a href="http://peterdickinson.hubpages.com/hub/Barnacle-Goose-Barnacle" rel="nofollow">geese were born from ocean barnacles</a>. And the guys who said the Earth was the center of the universe. <br /><br />Or the wide variety of people who use <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism" rel="nofollow">these ideas</a> to prove the superiority of the master race.<br /><br />Yes, the debate is over. Let's not let something so vulgar as real world scientific evidence penetrate the ivory tower and pollute the purity of these amazing simple theories.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-20544101211437926812013-01-27T16:58:37.856-08:002013-01-27T16:58:37.856-08:00I'm OK with most of what you just said (and we...I'm OK with most of what you just said (and we definitely DID clean up the environment in the '70s and '80s). I would just counter that by adding that 90% of the species that have become extinct during the planet's history became extinct prior to our (hominids) even being here ("Time Before History", Colin Tudge - great book!). The earth is going to be just fine. It's us that I'm truly worried about.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-12352413368691048302013-01-27T16:50:48.646-08:002013-01-27T16:50:48.646-08:00IMO, some of the problems with GW
are that there a...IMO, some of the problems with GW<br />are that there are a large number of variables, some of which may<br />not be fully understood, or even<br />known. Couple that with a situation where we have a sort of<br />history, a narrow time window (of a lifetime, say) trying to predict<br />a long term series of atmospheric<br />and oceanic results. Understandably, there will be scientists that disagree. That is<br />the way science works. IMO, humans<br />have been capable of environmental<br />damage, extinction of some species etc. We are a very successful species and we have mutliplied <br />exponentially. There is no reason to believe we cannot cause problems...and no reason to believe we cannot adapt or fix<br />problems. I am no chicken little,<br />nor proponent of big spending on the issue. I am a proponent of<br />more and better research and understanding. IMO, we will see<br />stronger storms, more bizarre weather over the next dozens of decades...but I'm too old to be<br />around to say "Gosh I was wrong"<br />or "Toldja so". Given the advances in technology, there is a probablity that we may be able to<br />control earth temperatures by some<br />means in the future. All sort of interesting, though.BB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168862935045755393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-10422105586458489132013-01-27T15:29:07.514-08:002013-01-27T15:29:07.514-08:00Satellite data has the temp going up approximately...Satellite data has the temp going up approximately .3 degrees over the past 34 years and a lot of that was mainly El Nino. This same satellite data does not show a "positive feedback", either. It really does appear that the emperor has no clothes here.......There, now can we try and clean up that plastic island in the Pacific and get rid of malaria in Africa - you know, real problems with real solutions.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-57261618553506925702013-01-27T15:22:24.700-08:002013-01-27T15:22:24.700-08:00I would personally not conflate those 2, BB. Yeah,...I would personally not conflate those 2, BB. Yeah, there are some idiots on the denial side but there are also a lot of astrophysicists, meteorologists, geologists, astronomers, engineers, and oceanographers. Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-85781854253436454382013-01-27T11:29:41.985-08:002013-01-27T11:29:41.985-08:00Still sorting it out..lessee here,
we've got t...Still sorting it out..lessee here,<br />we've got the science, the anti-science, politics and religion...<br />nicely wrapped up by the <a href="http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/science/2374/_creationism_and_global_warming_denial%3A_anti-science%E2%80%99s_kissing_cousins" rel="nofollow">Discovery Institute</a> . <br />BB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168862935045755393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-40615471369234180082013-01-27T11:22:37.514-08:002013-01-27T11:22:37.514-08:00The Climategate guy sure got rid of a lot of scien...The Climategate guy sure got rid of a lot of science, too.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-41887139705071977712013-01-27T10:17:58.177-08:002013-01-27T10:17:58.177-08:00Might as well do away with science altogether..per...Might as well do away with science altogether..perhaps start in <a href="http://www.webexhibits.org/bush/5.html" rel="nofollow">high places</a> ?<br />BB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168862935045755393noreply@blogger.com