Sunday, October 5, 2008

Questionable Sources

Let's see, what do we have here; Sean Hannity, Karl Rove, and Rudy Giuliani versus....Alan Colmes? THIS is fair and balanced? Not that this is necessarily a mismatch, mind you. This, I'm saying, in that Colmes, while he's hardly an intellectual giant and clearly tends to be a punching-bag at times, that above triumvirate is an excessively sluggish one - even by Fox standards................................................And at least Fox does throw Colmes a bone or two, puts him in for some token resistance, etc.. Compare that to MSNBC, where, between 8 and 10 P.M., you've got a pure/unadulterated propaganda machine, stumping for Obama and belittling the Republican ticket - absent ANY resistance.............................................Oh well, at least we still have CNN.................................................P.S. Not that CNN is perfect, either, mind you. But at least their hosts/moderators are seemingly fair/unbiased. That, and they almost always divide their panels equally between Democrats and Republicans and/or Liberals and Conservatives. I rarely get the impression that the deck is stacked either way with them, in other words. Hopefully, that will continue. I mean, if it doesn't, then what? I don't even want to think about it.

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

McCain fudges his Navy record

John McCain claims that his first plane crash, back in December 1960, was the result of engine failure. A U.S. Navy investigation makes clear that it was caused by pilot error.

In other words McCain lied about his own record, which also means he really has NO honor .....

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Clif, I NEVER said that McCain was either a perfect person or a perfect pilot. In fact, I had always thought that the Corpus Christi and Mediterranean incidents probably WERE his fault. My problem with what Mike had said was how he kept alluding to the 5 mishaps and inferring that they were ALL McCain's fault. I mean, even this article says that the missile accident and his being shot down in Vietnam WERE NOT his fault. The 5th incident was the flame-out and I don't believe that he's ever been blamed for that one, either. And I was surprised to read that he DIDN'T crash his plane in the Mediterranean incident. After hitting the lines, he was still able to land the plane on the ship (no doubt there was some damage to it, though). I'm trying to be fair here, Clif, O.K.?

Anonymous said...

I'm trying to be fair here, Clif, O.K.?

What ya trying to do change your spots?

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I'm the only blogger I know that holds both sides under scrutiny. So, fuck you, Clif. I mean, come on, think about was you're saying here, ass-hole. For the 1st 9 months or so of this blog, 85-90% of my postings were anti-Bush/his apologists in the media - BEFORE I EVEN KNEW YOUR SORRY ASSES EXISTED!!! It was only after I got exposed to the lunacy at LC's, Existential Cowboy, Politics Plus, etc. that I decided, "gee, I need to be a little more even-handed here." So, yeah, now I try to be 50-50. Am I perfect? No. But I'm a lot less partisan than you frigging clowns. That's a fact, Jack.

Anonymous said...

thin skin

showin'

again

son.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Facts hurt, huh?

Anonymous said...

FACTS son?

All ya got is your deluded opinion and the stupid ideas you post here,

Ain't seen NO facts here just your idiocy for all to see son.


Oh and the HATE you seem to have for veterans.

1138 said...

I see you've figured out where a post script goes. On the script, not on a new one.

So you're back on the McCain can/can't fly thing again.
Give it up, if his father hadn't been an Admiral and his father before him McCain would have been kicked out after the first plane went into the drink.
Everything else follows from that.

Fair?
Fair is that Mac should have got what anyone else would.
Fair is that we look at it for what it was then, now. Elitism and favoritism

1138 said...

"I'm the only blogger I know that holds both sides under scrutiny."

Wow! How do you hold that ego in that tiny little head, giving Madonna and everyone else instructions and also being the ONLY blogger that hold both sides under "scrutiny".

Anonymous said...

If John McCain wants a campaign song;

This is certainly it right now

LOL

It even has a refrain for the TWIT after November

1138 said...

"But I'm a lot less partisan than you frigging clowns."

I run the risk of being called a clown. shrug, it's only by you and idiots like you.

I'm not partisan unstable Bill but you certainly want to see it that way.
I've made no extraordinary claims for anyone, but I haven't made pathetic EXCUSES for anyone like you have either.

You have one mode - attack, what you really need to develop are your reason skills, you don't have any.

1138 said...

"That's a fact, Jack."

The movie line was "That's the fact, Jack." Stripes 1981

and after all the exchanges, from you, it comes across as another military slam, a cheap petty one.

1138 said...

Me honestly I just finally got around to looking through the wasteland of your short archives...
Yawn I'm out of here Bill Hart. Your a legend in your own addled mind and not worth my nor anyone elses keystrokes. Your comments need to go back to 0 COMMENTS.

See you around, but only if I can't avoid it.

Anonymous said...

I agree with ya 1138, this LOSER ain't worth anybody's time ...

UM will ... enjoy the echo chamber son.

thereturnofRusty said...

Will,you make the mistake of trying to reason with these two idiots.

Have you ever seen Col.Klink make a cognizant point in his own words?If he cant cut and paste some obscure far left lunatic point of view he is completly lost.If he's forced to use his own words all he has is vile.

I dont know this for sure but I'd be willing to venture a guess the army hustled him out the door because of a psychological problem.

As for 1138,in my view he's just an anti-Semite in lambs clothing.

If either or both hold true to their vow of leaving your blog it really is'nt a big loss.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I would love to get a peek at either of these two fellows' actual military record, especially Cliffy's.

1138 said...

Would you Bill?
That statement says something about you. My record is honorable clear and nothing for me to be ashamed of.
Um what's yours look like?
Oh, that's right. None for you.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

You don't sound honorable at all. Are you saing that a record that doesn't include military service is an unworthy one? Better not tell that to Biden or Obama.

1138 said...

You question mine, they don't.
In fact they can see mine and you cant.
BILL YOU COWARD.

1138 said...

You have no record of National service Bill, they do.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

They're politicians, you jerk. I don't consider that honorable at all. You questioned my veracity first, numbnuts. I just gave it right back to you. And you never corrected your mistake about me supposedly saying that I had 6 college degrees. Never said that, buddy. You were wrong....or lying.

1138 said...

And you have no record of national service, but are very jealous of anyone who does. Me question your bonafides first? Nope, you started it way back with your proclamation that EVERYONE on the Internet lies.
That would include yourself.
It was a self revealing statement.

As for the count I admitted the error you confused PC demanding jail guard.

Anonymous said...

Boy, somebody seems quite testy for some reason.

1138 said...

"Are you saing that a record that doesn't include military service is an unworthy one? "

Nothing of the sort I'm saying that a military record that doesn't include military service, isn't a military record.
Members of Congress have direct control over the military and can enter military bases at will. Civilians can't.
Military members can and do go to jail for telling their bosses to get fucked, civilians like you can't.
Military members can be ordered to a position of death and worse, you have never been in that position Willy and you can't and obviously don't appreciate it.
Clif for all I or you know may have had to kill, men women or childern - armed or unarmed.
THAT can mess a person up and you go to the point of ridicule with it.

You're shit Will, human fucking shit.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

I tried for weeks to be civil, patient, and understanding with Clif. I was rewarded with utter bile. He may have had to kill somebody? He also may have been a total fuck-up who got his ass handed to him by HIS bosses. Who the hell knows with this guy. Hey, nobody held a gun to your head. I mean were you drafted or not? Never been in a situation where I could be hurt? I worked with fucking murderers, armed robbers, and rapists. And I worked with "kids" that have killed other kids. Alright? There, now go salute yourself, will ya'?

1138 said...

Have you had to kill any one William?
Answer yes or no, not were you in a situation where YOU could have been hurt, or YOU MIGHT have had to hurt or kill someone.
DID YOU EVER KILL SOMEONE WILL?
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SOMEONE VIOLENTLY KILLED IN FRONT OF YOU?

For someone that claim psychological training you don't appear to grasp YOUR RESPONSIBILITY in the conversations that you participate in.

And that's why I believe that you are either a liar about your education, or you are operating a a diminished capacity.
Regardless based on what I've seen online you should never be trusted with the medical needs or care of others, you are unstable and I've reported such.

1138 said...

And by the way nut job if you were "civil" with clif the way you were civil with me, with your DISABLED cracks, then you got and are getting from him everything you deserve.

Wake up you freaking fool, the world isn't about your time in a jail or an inner city school - other stuff happens and people went out and made it possible for you to do both of those things, not the other way around.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Maybe you'll think twice the next time you want to glibly accuse another person (a stranger, no less) of racism.

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

And you want to medicalize people who disagree with you - YOU, a walking, talking delusion of persecution. I'm not anti-military, you idiot. And Clif never killed anybody. He was in Desert Storm. He went in after we carpet-bombed the shit out of them for weeks and supposedly disarmed road-side bombs. Maybe one or two of the 300 something killed in this conflict he might have known. But I have a sneaking suspicion that Clif was an ass-hole well prior to this, and will continue to be til death (or total insanity) does him 'part. And I WAS nice to this douchebag, so fuck off!

1138 said...

But now we see _civilian_ Will "take no prisoners" Hart say that military men, a group that he claims to respect were not forced to participate in intolerable, inhuman, macabre, situations of death, mutilated bodies, booby trapped corpses and piles of bodies stacked like cord wood. Bill the big brave city hero just blew off the mile of death and what such situations do do good, real men of flesh and blood suddenly put into the real sight, smell and touch of such a situation to pick through it looking for bombs.

Forced? None were told what they were in for, and none were allowed to glance at it, turn around and just go home. Once there, they were REQUIRED to try and deal with and required or not - they deserve credit, not ridicule for just doing it. Even if they are assholes.

1138 said...

"I worked with fucking murderers, armed robbers, and rapists. And I worked with "kids" that have killed other kids."

And you were free to walk away any day with no repercussions aside from finding a new job.
A jail guard and a school teacher.
You really do believe that your jobs were military service equivalent, or should be.
That's delusional.