"Hell, my father just about invented bugging. He had them spread all over, and thought nothing of it." John Roosevelt............."My father may have been the originator of the concept of employing the IRS as a weapon of political retribution." Elliot Roosevelt.............So, ya' still think that George W. Bush was the worst U.S. President on civil liberties?
Good point.
ReplyDeleteGWB was worse than Clinton on such matters. And Obama is worse than GWB. (just like Obama is worse than GWB on such matters as the debt, foreign involvements, and the MIC).
At least since WW2, each President has gotten worse on such matters (with perhaps an exception made for Carter).
As long as you stipulated, since WW2, I will agree with that (Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR all being worse than Bush and Obama, I would assert).
ReplyDeleteTimes have their defining characteristics and the characters that define the times.
ReplyDeleteBush the mouthpiece and Cheney the definer exemplify the worst of modern times to date.
"Bush the mouthpiece and Cheney the definer exemplify the worst of modern times to date."
ReplyDeleteIn many ways (though not all) Obama is worse. And this is in the matter being discussed in this post. Its descendant is the NSA/etc situation. And Patriot, which Obama renewed and made his own.
Obama has certainly been horrible when it comes to press freedom and openness I would also posit.
ReplyDeleteFrom commondreams .... most definitely not knee-jerk tea-party Obama critics:
ReplyDelete"Bush-Era Spying 'Made Legal' Under Obama
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Despite feigned outrage over the use of "illegal" surveillance techniques employed under the Bush administration, in the follow up to this week's news of a massive government surveillance system, revelations have come forth regarding President Obama's role in not only the expansion of existing surveillance methods but also of the codification of laws that permit the violation of Americans' civil liberties."
Singling out Cheney when Obama is by most accounts making matters worse on the domestic surveillance front doesn't match what has been going on, and getting worse.
I agree in some ways Obama is Bush light.
ReplyDeleteJonathan Turley (also not a conservative - just ask George Bush) has also stated that Obama is worse.
ReplyDeleteOr perhaps Bush was Obama Light?
ReplyDeleteSix of one half dozen of the other.
DeleteYeah, I know, he thinks GWB is responsible for war crimes.
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