tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post5585085391473721843..comments2023-08-24T07:27:12.657-07:00Comments on Contra O'Reilly: On the Assertion that Employers Always have the Advantage Over Employees When it Comes to Negotiating Pay - Part 2 Will "take no prisoners" Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-52897176364850337582015-05-06T16:05:21.260-07:002015-05-06T16:05:21.260-07:00We have a lot of complainers where I work. The one...We have a lot of complainers where I work. The ones with initiative go back to school and the ones without it either fry out or persevere unhappily.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-48701877690348006012015-05-06T08:19:13.687-07:002015-05-06T08:19:13.687-07:00In my experience, there has always been a set skil...In my experience, there has always been a set skill/pay hierarchy in the majority of<br />jobs outside the Ivory Tower:<br />the hierarchy was set based on<br />local and area similar pay and<br />surplus/shortage. There was no<br />room for individual negotiation,<br />the difference between what an<br />individual thinks they are worth<br />vs that worth with respect to the existing hierarchy. Thus continued attempts at negotiation<br />resulted at best in a promotion,<br />at worst, termination. IMO, the<br />individual's advantage in the area<br />is to meet or beat whatever goals<br />are set for a particular position.<br />As a young hotshot, I was told don't complain, we can always replace you easily. Presumably,<br />they did, for I never stayed where<br />I was considered 'a piece of meat'. Having been through the process over the last 2-3 generations, my advice is to build the resume, understand the<br />position requirements, go the extra mile: if abused by poor mgt.<br />do even more while you find another job and avoid being nasty<br />in the exit interview. It really boils down to the individual vs<br />a big organization and the cog<br />negotiating with the machine.<br />Doesn't take a rocket engineer to<br />observe that a single unhappy cog<br />is far better than almost all the<br />cogs pissed off. I was happiest<br />and most productive when simply<br />ignored by the topside and they<br />gradually came to accept that...<br />but different strokes for different cogs, I guess.BB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388509941702241290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-14806948378034435152015-05-05T20:06:18.133-07:002015-05-05T20:06:18.133-07:00Skilled employees have a lot more advantage.
The...Skilled employees have a lot more advantage. <br /><br />The unskilled don't. Those willing to learn should be given a chance, and a financial incentive.<br /><br />Those purposefully and perversely unwilling to do work that earns more than a very low wage deserve to wallow in low pay.<br /><br />Something needs to be done for the truly needy, the single mother, the widow, disabled, etc. But I don't think laws that force struggling hardscrabble small businesses to give these needy people (along with a much greater number of well off, who get the same gift) unearned welfare out of their nonexistent profits is viable at all.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.com