tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post5421578768211658550..comments2023-08-24T07:27:12.657-07:00Comments on Contra O'Reilly: Despicable AlanWill "take no prisoners" Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-19773402678908544322012-01-07T12:45:03.871-08:002012-01-07T12:45:03.871-08:00I'll take the Anthony Weiner question, Russ. Y...I'll take the Anthony Weiner question, Russ. Yes, absolutely, that poor bastard got sold down the river but time.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-91919497541289209202012-01-07T11:10:27.100-08:002012-01-07T11:10:27.100-08:00Well now,thanks for clearing that up WD.
But y...Well now,thanks for clearing that up WD.<br /><br /> But you do deduce the dems were cowardly dumbells when it pertains to ACORN? Is that correct?<br /><br /> Would you also deduce they were likewise cowardly dumbells when it came to the Little Anthony Weiner dust up?Rusty Shackelfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14232914458379098036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-9625969449694176462012-01-05T09:12:45.074-08:002012-01-05T09:12:45.074-08:00No, Rusty. You're completely wrong regarding w...No, Rusty. You're completely wrong regarding what I've deduced. What I've deduced is: [1] The Democrats are far from perfect, but they are a hell of a better choice then the Republicans. [2] Occasionally the Democrats will do things I disagree with and I think are dumb. OCCASIONALLY - not all the time (as your interpretation of what I've "deduced" implies).Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-32596160128303772092012-01-04T14:22:04.481-08:002012-01-04T14:22:04.481-08:00So let me get this straight WD.
What you've...So let me get this straight WD.<br /><br /> What you've deduced from this whole sordid ACORN mess.....is that the right lies and the left are cowardly dumbells.Interesting...very interesting.Rusty Shackelfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14232914458379098036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-89418587216425620592012-01-04T13:44:52.986-08:002012-01-04T13:44:52.986-08:00To answer Rusty's question: The Democrats, bel...To answer Rusty's question: The Democrats, believing public opinion had turned against ACORN (due to the Republican lies about how Acorn was involved in voter fraud) chickened out.<br /><br />It was a cowardly vote, and I am deeply disappointed in any Democrat who voted to take away Acorn's federal funding... including Barney Frank (this was a rare instance were he got it wrong).Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-12915129895263833872012-01-04T12:49:16.709-08:002012-01-04T12:49:16.709-08:00One question WD.If ACORN was the immpeccable,above...One question WD.If ACORN was the immpeccable,above board,lily white organization you say it was why did congress in a bipartisian vote<br />(including Barney Frank)suspend all federal funding for them?Rusty Shackelfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14232914458379098036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-51705207891785810092012-01-04T05:50:57.704-08:002012-01-04T05:50:57.704-08:00dmarks, your suggestion that I've used "s...dmarks, your suggestion that I've used "semantic tricks to deny that directing people to fraudulently register fake voters" is laughable.<br /><br />Acorn directed its employees to collect registrations from actual people who are qualified to vote. There are plenty of them, thus absolutely no reason to create fake ones (unless you want to be paid for not doing the real worker of going out and registering real people).<br /><br />Acorn was found innocent by the authorities. I stand with the experts on this one dmarks... unlike you. You stand with the cranks and partisans who wish to smear Acorn in order to justify voter ID laws that have been proven to disenfranchise likely Democratic voters.<br /><br />This is all about stealing elections by turning away qualified voters (because they are likely to vote Democratic), nothing more.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-25820923375958108322012-01-04T03:44:32.711-08:002012-01-04T03:44:32.711-08:00ACORN pushed voter fraud, not me.
Your attempts t...ACORN pushed voter fraud, not me.<br /><br />Your attempts to use semantic tricks to deny that directing people to fraudulently register fake voters is not "voter fraud" is laughable. There are multiple types of voter fraud.<br /><br />And of course ACORN will lie and deny it directed its employs to engage in the voter fraud they committed. They were caught in the act. Corporations do the same when their employees are caught doing things.<br /><br />"Nobody actually tried to vote using the fake registrations..."<br /><br />Yes, because the whistle was blown on ACORN's voter fraud before the next election occurred. Thankfully. But this gives us another reason why we need voter ID. So if ACORN get away with this again, the fake voters won't end up at the actual polls.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-21474522450047955032012-01-03T14:10:49.294-08:002012-01-03T14:10:49.294-08:00I advise you to stop pushing this Acorn voter frau...I advise you to stop pushing this Acorn voter fraud nonsense dmarks... you'll only further embarrass yourself.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-89096667817595020272012-01-03T14:08:10.494-08:002012-01-03T14:08:10.494-08:00dmarks: And the crimes involved in the arrests wer...<i>dmarks: And the crimes involved in the arrests were voter fraud.</i><br /><br />No, sorry dmarks, but you're wrong.<br /><br />Your own link proves you wrong! An excerpt (from the article YOU linked to) says...<br /><br />"The individuals being charged was further evidence we've been policing our own folks and report people attempting to commit voter registration fraud", said ACORN spokesman Brian Kettenring. "This was really some individuals who were trying to defraud their employer".<br /><br />In other words, some people Acorn hired turned in fake registrations so they could collect money for doing no work. Acorn did NOT direct its employees to do this! Acorn cooperated with the authorities. They flagged suspect registrations before turning them in (as required by law).<br /><br />Also, the author of the article lied. He says the people were arrested for "voter fraud". Voter fraud only occurs when someone attempts to vote fraudulently. The fake registrations were all about getting paid for work that wasn't done. Nobody actually tried to vote using the fake registrations...<br /><br />...and I doubt you can produce even ONE article that says so.<br /><br />Acorn was not involved in any voter fraud or attempted voter fraud. There was an investigation and they were found innocent (as the article I linked to says). That Acorn was involved in "voter fraud" most certainly *IS* a Republican hoax.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-10906848312287037422012-01-03T11:34:30.287-08:002012-01-03T11:34:30.287-08:00Here you go. Actual arrests by real law enforcemen...Here you go. Actual arrests by real law enforcement. Not "Republican operatives" .<br /><br />And the crimes involved in the arrests were voter fraud.<br /><br /><a href="http://digitaljournal.com/article/278958" rel="nofollow">click here</a><br /><br />The article refers to crimes and arrests in multiple states. <br /><br />The link you provided was basically political statements from leaders of the political party closely aligned with ACORN. Not surprising that they whitewash the actual evidence of crimes.<br /><br />I've completely avoided any reference to Republicans here, as it is not a Republican hoax. The criminal record speaks for itself. Real crimes, real cops.<br /><br />"If you do have links to any articles that say ACORN was involved in any voter fraud or attempted voter fraud... the authors of those articles are lying (just like you're lying)."<br /><br />You've gone off the deep end.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-10044005519360484952012-01-03T09:14:00.616-08:002012-01-03T09:14:00.616-08:00dmarks lied: Sorry, I can't help but mention e...<i>dmarks lied: Sorry, I can't help but mention events that actually occured. Even if they are "inconvenient" for you.</i><br /><br />dmarks, it isn't at all "inconvenient" to me for you to insist things that never happened actually did. Why would I care if you make yourself look foolish by repeating disproved Republican smears?<br /><br />If you do have links to any articles that say ACORN was involved in any voter fraud or attempted voter fraud... the authors of those articles are lying (just like you're lying).<br /><br />Yes, there were investigations by Republican operatives attempting to smear ACORN, but ACORN was found innocent, exactly as Shaw pointed out.<br /><br />From the NYT, 12/23/2009: "<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/24/us/24acorn.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=ACORN+voter+fraud" rel="nofollow">Report Uncovers No Voting Fraud by Acorn</a>". (excerpt) "A new report on the community group Acorn by the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service has found no evidence of fraudulent voting or of violations of federal financing rules by the group in the past five years".Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-43291753284849272672012-01-03T04:42:31.319-08:002012-01-03T04:42:31.319-08:00WD lied: "dmarks, ACORN never padded voter re...WD lied: "dmarks, ACORN never padded voter registration with fake names".<br /><br />Actually, I presented a link to actual criminal investigations, actual arrests of ACORN operatives, for <b>voter fraud crimes</b> that exactly involved padding voter registration lists with fake names.<br /><br />Do you want this link again? Do you want more links?<br /><br />"Why waste time referring to an event that never occured? *YOU* are living in a fantasy land."<br /><br />Sorry, I can't help but mention events that actually occured. Even if they are "inconvenient" for you.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-73932258904565681612012-01-02T19:15:31.604-08:002012-01-02T19:15:31.604-08:00And there are different types of stupidity, Truth....And there are different types of stupidity, Truth. You have the backward thinking type of stupidity of Bachmann and Webster. And then you've got the type of stupidity that allowed somebody in the Obama Justice Department to OK Operation Fast and Furious. Maybe the hard-core left needs to manage their own stupidity a little better before they start crapping on another fellow's marriage.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-1403590701321945442012-01-02T19:10:30.727-08:002012-01-02T19:10:30.727-08:00Only in the perverted world of the extremist is sa...Only in the perverted world of the extremist is saying that a guy shouldn't be compared to the TALIBAN!!!!!!!!! considered "defending" that guy.............And wd obviously doesn't know what "taking out of context" means. It means when you take isolated words out of a larger text and make it sound like the person was saying something other than what he was actually saying. I challenge ANY reasonable person to watch Mr. Webster's speech and then watch Mr. Grayson's vile cherry-picked version of it and decide for themselves. As far as I know, the only idiots who didn't see a problem with what this asshole Grayson did are wd and the Daily Kos. I mean, my God, even Contessa Brewer of MSDNC had a problem wit it (and let him know it).Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-13118267363104670432012-01-02T18:17:12.690-08:002012-01-02T18:17:12.690-08:00Will: I know that wd is an uneducated idiot and [b...<i>Will: I know that wd is an uneducated idiot and [blah, blah, blah, more absolutely disgusting nonsense concerning why he's defending the misogynistic Webster]</i><br /><br />Oh, so now YOU'RE clairvoyant? That, or you've read my educational transcript. I'm stumped as to how you could possibly "know" I'm an uneducated idiot.<br /><br /><i>Will: The woman says that she isn't subservient.</i><br /><br />So, you also believe the "sister wives" in those fundamentalist Mormon cults who love sharing their husband with several other women? They must not be brainwashed either, huh?<br /><br />Grayson did not take Webster "out of context". So the eff what if Webster isn't LITERALLY a Taliban? (the ad makes no such claim). Webster believes women should be subservient to their husbands... just like the Taliban!<br /><br />I see absolutely nothing wrong with the ad... aside from the fact that it backfired. As far as I'm concerned the only thing Grayson did wrong was, when his ad team came to him and showed him what they had put together, he told them to go ahead.<br /><br />So, no, Webster was NOT "wronged". In fact, I find the suggestion utterly ridiculous. If anyone was "wronged" I think it was Grayson, for how the press attacked him over this truthful ad.<br /><br />In conclusion -- despite Will's shameless attacks on Grayson, I'm proud to say I'm a huge fan... and I'm rooting for him to return to the House. I've got nothing but respect for him.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-39671283499380402812012-01-02T17:58:22.958-08:002012-01-02T17:58:22.958-08:00The man is a fundamentalist Will. he takes ther B...The man is a fundamentalist Will. he takes ther Bible literally. He believes in submission of the wife.<br /><br /> When asked he, Bachman and the rest of them are evasive but won't come out and say it's bullshit.<br /><br /> They believe this stuff Will. A passage written over 2,000 years ago by a guy who demanded his wives submit to him. Webster is one of them. <br /><br /> WD is correct and you are foolish for defending this joker Webster.Joe "Truth 101" Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08875151516978133598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-22234699635884050022012-01-02T16:31:10.100-08:002012-01-02T16:31:10.100-08:00And, Truth, how exactly have I extolled the virtue...And, Truth, how exactly have I extolled the virtues of this Webster guy? I've conceded that he probably IS a Bible-thumper and I've also stated that I WOULDN'T vote for him. My only point here is that he shouldn't have had his words taken out of context (snippets extracted and the exculpatory words left out) and he shouldn't have been compared to one of the most vile and ruthless regimes of the modern era (the frigging idiots blow up huge statues of the Buddha, for Christ). I mean, I know that wd is an uneducated idiot and fails to see the nuance here but certainly you can see what I'm doing.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-72932083403421315922012-01-02T15:51:14.715-08:002012-01-02T15:51:14.715-08:00Bad taste, Truth? Bad taste!Bad taste, Truth? Bad taste!Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-48879068153053262572012-01-02T15:49:35.135-08:002012-01-02T15:49:35.135-08:00Sorry Will but WD is correct on this thing.
I&#...Sorry Will but WD is correct on this thing.<br /><br /> I've been to services and talked to the religious zealots of which Webster is one. They take the Bible literally. This Webster, Michelle Bachman, and other extremists can obsfucate all they want but they do believe in this submit stuff and that slaves must obey their masters etc.<br /><br /> Of course referring to Webster in an ad as Taliban Dan was in bad taste and bad judgement. These tactics work if you're trying to convince idiots, but they turn off people capable of rational thought.Joe "Truth 101" Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08875151516978133598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-31608993373125444822012-01-02T14:33:37.259-08:002012-01-02T14:33:37.259-08:00And just to review here - Mr. Webster has never ad...And just to review here - Mr. Webster has never advocated that women wear burqas. He's never said that they shouldn't be able to work. He's never said that they shouldn't be allowed an education after the age of eight. He's never said that they shouldn't be allowed to be treated by male doctors (not that there ARE any female doctors) unless accompanied by a male chaperon. He's never said that they should face public floggings and executions for breaking religious laws. He's never advocated for forced marriages or the marriages of girls under 16. He's never advocated that women not speak loudly in public. He's never advocated for a severe restriction of movement for women. And he's never advocated that women not be allowed on radio, television, or at public gatherings. NONE of these things has Mr. Webster EVER advocated but wretched losers like Grayson and wd have zero trouble comparing him to the Taliban. Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.............And, just for the record, wd, that "clarification" came AFTER the despicable Grayson ad and unless Mr. Grayson is clairvoyant.....Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-87140849850586003512012-01-02T14:28:46.657-08:002012-01-02T14:28:46.657-08:00Oh, and, to answer your question, dmarks, I wouldn...Oh, and, to answer your question, dmarks, I wouldn't trust this Grayson fellow to watch my cat, never mind anything else. HE COMPARED HIS OPPONENT TO THE TALIBAN.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-49176702134243649172012-01-02T14:23:19.877-08:002012-01-02T14:23:19.877-08:00Webster wasn't wronged!!!? He was fucking comp...Webster wasn't wronged!!!? He was fucking compared to the Taliban, you idiot! Show me just ONE instance in which Mr. Webster agrees with ANY of the examples that I've cited in this post. ONE!............And you really shouldn't accuse ANYBODY of being brainwashed, wd (the fact that you buy hook, line, and sinker literally everything that the collectivist cult figures throw at you). The woman says that she isn't subservient. But, noooooooo, that isn't good enough for you. You have to slander her, too. A person that you don't even frigging know, for Christ.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-45884232202940124282012-01-02T13:30:49.386-08:002012-01-02T13:30:49.386-08:00dmarks, ACORN never padded voter registration with...dmarks, ACORN never padded voter registration with fake names". Why waste time referring to an event that never occured? *YOU* are living in a fantasy land.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-60875540008206739032012-01-02T13:24:25.181-08:002012-01-02T13:24:25.181-08:00The ACLU defended Oliver North. I guess that make...The ACLU defended Oliver North. I guess that makes him a nazi according to Dmark's and that number guy's logic.<br /><br /> Dirty nazi!Joe "Truth 101" Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08875151516978133598noreply@blogger.com