tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post2235961917351268128..comments2023-08-24T07:27:12.657-07:00Comments on Contra O'Reilly: Percentage of Political Contributions by Brookings Institution Members Going to Democrats?Will "take no prisoners" Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-40995186675972001792012-08-31T12:17:39.087-07:002012-08-31T12:17:39.087-07:00And don't you think that the Brookings Institu... And don't you think that the Brookings Institution, if in fact it were truly "centrist", would have given far more than 2.4% to Republicans from 2003 to 2010; Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, Rob Simmons, Arlen Specter (back when he was a Republican), Lincoln Chaffee (prior to his becoming an independent), Governor Romney (prior to his conversion), Charlie Crist (prior to his becoming an independent), Mike Castle, etc.? 97.6 is just a little too hard to explain away, I think.............Look at this. We're having a reasonable conversation and nobody's out to sabotage it. How refreshing, huh? Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-52629877929220748432012-08-31T10:23:41.990-07:002012-08-31T10:23:41.990-07:00I found Ben Nelson when looking. From Nebraska.
...I found Ben Nelson when looking. From Nebraska. <br /><br />No idea where I would be. I'd have to test one of those indexes.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-73341365461698934472012-08-31T10:08:17.365-07:002012-08-31T10:08:17.365-07:00Pryor from Arkansas probably comes the closest to ... Pryor from Arkansas probably comes the closest to a Conservative Democrat and even he's only hovering around 50%. Me - I'd probably come in somewhere between 40-55 (40 on the social issues, 55 on the economy). Where would you be, dmarks, high 60s, low 70s?Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-43525475559567183692012-08-31T04:40:03.811-07:002012-08-31T04:40:03.811-07:00I used one of those "conservative vs liberal&...I used one of those "conservative vs liberal" ratings comparisons <i>from a liberal group</i>, and, according to them, like all of the others, Jim Webb came out on the liberal side.<br /><br />Barack Obama, whom WD said was conservative, has one of the strongest liberal voting records.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-32563210129739825642012-08-30T19:21:32.639-07:002012-08-30T19:21:32.639-07:00He does this all the time, HR; FDR and collective ...He does this all the time, HR; FDR and collective bargaining, Bush and his refusal to hand bin Laden over to some Islamic council, the fact that the Tax Policy Center made some very questionable assumptions about the Romney Budget, etc.. He's exceedingly difficult to reason with. 97.6% contributions to Democrats and he's spinning over that! Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-80360843864529084152012-08-30T19:17:12.250-07:002012-08-30T19:17:12.250-07:00You don't think that the National Journal is a...You don't think that the National Journal is a reliable source, wd? They gave Barbara Boxer and Sherrod Brown a 14.5% conservative rating and Ron Johnson and Mike Crapo a 94.2 and 90.8 respectively. Those sound about right, too. Maybe this is just yet another example of you not being able to handle the objective facts and trying to weasel. Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-18246723466422021812012-08-30T18:28:28.712-07:002012-08-30T18:28:28.712-07:00WD, your problem is you think Moderate Democrat = ...WD, your problem is you think Moderate Democrat = Moderate. A Democrat is still on the left. Even a conservative Democrat.<br /><br />Similarly, a liberal Republican is still on the right. Moderate is in the middle of the spectrum; Democrat is on the left; Republican is on the right.<br /><br />You're playing with definitions to win an argument. Do you have any capacity for honesty?The Heathen Republicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14173487578108542055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-80469672318267542402012-08-30T17:47:11.125-07:002012-08-30T17:47:11.125-07:00wd, just for the sake of suspecting... because yo...wd, just for the sake of suspecting... because you suspect so damn much.<br /><br />I would suspect. Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-18323438857113369442012-08-30T17:16:59.914-07:002012-08-30T17:16:59.914-07:00Will: So, a 34.8% conservative rating is considere...<i>Will: So, a 34.8% conservative rating is considered conservative by you?</i><br /><br />I don't believe the rating.<br /><br /><i>Will: And there you go again with the "suspecting".</i><br /><br />You said, and I quote, "they didn't list the specific candidates". Since they are moderate it is very reasonable to suspect they donated to moderate Democrats. Why would I suspect a moderate organization donated to Liberal Democrats???Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-5181031689713282052012-08-30T17:03:19.526-07:002012-08-30T17:03:19.526-07:00So, a 34.8% conservative rating is considered cons... So, a 34.8% conservative rating is considered conservative by you?......And there you go again with the "suspecting". Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-88843245588383638892012-08-30T17:02:45.128-07:002012-08-30T17:02:45.128-07:00It's hard for you to imagine because you think...It's hard for you to imagine because you think "moderate" means a Conservative who's adopted some moderate positions. Like David Brooks, for example.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-62735245064728170992012-08-30T17:01:13.352-07:002012-08-30T17:01:13.352-07:00Jim Webb is a Conservative Democrat. I suspect the...Jim Webb is a Conservative Democrat. I suspect the donations went to Moderate Democrats. That makes the most sense, since Brookings is a Moderate organization.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-46331519323095862982012-08-30T16:30:31.784-07:002012-08-30T16:30:31.784-07:00So, all 97.6% of these donations went to guys like... So, all 97.6% of these donations went to guys like Jim Webb (whose conservative rating as dmarks has accurately pointed out is only 34.8%)? I don't know, wd, they didn't list the specific candidates but since every Democratic Senator had a conservative rating of less than 50%, it's really hard to imagine the scenario that you're hypothesizing here.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-83047041161447368482012-08-30T16:07:02.338-07:002012-08-30T16:07:02.338-07:00So, only Conservatives like you can be centrist?
...So, only Conservatives like you can be centrist?<br /><br />What Liberal Democrats does Brookings donate to?Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.com