tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post1546715180528476508..comments2023-08-24T07:27:12.657-07:00Comments on Contra O'Reilly: Frank Gaffney: Richard Perle on SteroidsWill "take no prisoners" Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-89346667864760886312010-08-22T18:58:57.896-07:002010-08-22T18:58:57.896-07:00My goal, Oso, is to someday be the Henry Clay of t...My goal, Oso, is to someday be the Henry Clay of the internet. The great compromiser, remember? Well, that and he also lost a bunch of elections. LOLWill "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-4567389354177640372010-08-22T16:12:46.070-07:002010-08-22T16:12:46.070-07:00Will,
Scary ain't it :)Will,<br /><br />Scary ain't it :)Osohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09513535195785731541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-50672416382421670362010-08-22T12:35:39.768-07:002010-08-22T12:35:39.768-07:00Oso, it looks like you and I are on the same side ...Oso, it looks like you and I are on the same side of this Middle-Eastern debate. I'm telling you, I knew that it would happen eventually. LOLWill "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-42464198622920349362010-08-22T12:33:30.054-07:002010-08-22T12:33:30.054-07:00Our violence isn't ancient history, Volt. Woun...Our violence isn't ancient history, Volt. Wounded Knee was 1890. Slavery and Jim Crow/lynchings also took place in the 19th century. Ditto, Napolean's beheadings in Egypt. And, yes, segregation lasted well into the 20th century. Couple that with the fact that the Pope did literally nothing to help the Jews during the Holocaust and, yeah, you gotta admit, our human rights record isn't all that much to write home about, either......Volt, I took a lot of heat on liberal blogs for saying that we shouldn't stereotype the tea partiers, that the movement isn't composed entirely of bigots, etc.. I'm just trying to be consistent here. Congressman Ellison from Minnesota is a Muslim. So, too, are Muhammad Ali and Kareem Abdul Jabbar. And what about the rest of the peaceful Muslims in this country. Do you want to declare war on them, too? And, what, are you saying that we SHOULDN'T be pulling our troops out of Iraq? That we should stay there and rule indefinitely/try to convert the entire nation to Christianity? I mean, even if all of this was the right thing to do (this, and the war on Islam, in general), where are we going to get the money. We ARE broke, you know that, right (though, yeah, I'm sure that the Chinese would be more than happy to get us all bogged down in Northern Africa - this while they/their GNP continue to grow at 8-10% a year)?Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-48898289634119912832010-08-22T10:22:40.054-07:002010-08-22T10:22:40.054-07:00Voltron,
There are many sites which show Christia...Voltron,<br /><br />There are many sites which show Christianity in an equally bad light as your sites which oppose Islam.<br /><br />I'm Christian but have done some informal study on Islam and find it an equally valid religion, which can promise hope/salvation same as my religion.<br /><br />There are some issues I feel so strongly about that I could never consider the other side, yet there IS another side.<br /><br />Not trying to start an argument here because I don't have a dog in this race. But do you think it's possible that you have allowed anger at this to overcome objectivity? If you'd concede that's possible, maybe study of it might show there is more in common between Christianity and Islam than you might think.<br /><br />Not saying you don't have a right to your beliefs.<br /><br />Will, nice post. There was an old movie "Island of Lost Souls" I believe with Bela Lugosi? That would be a good place for Pelosi and Bachman and pretty much all the rest except for my man Ron Paul.Osohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09513535195785731541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-49794644324192094362010-08-22T10:21:58.819-07:002010-08-22T10:21:58.819-07:00How about we just ask everyone who wants to be a m...How about we just ask everyone who wants to be a martyr? Get them to all stand in one spot and give their coordinates to the Air Force.<br /><br />Problem solved.IrOnY RaGeDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415495177472751193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-24795112192650462462010-08-22T10:20:28.683-07:002010-08-22T10:20:28.683-07:00Of course at their rate they'd be out of place...Of course at their rate they'd be out of places to worship in under a month...IrOnY RaGeDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415495177472751193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-67502539372505766372010-08-22T10:19:48.639-07:002010-08-22T10:19:48.639-07:00Like I said, every act of terrorism we take out a ...Like I said, every act of terrorism we take out a mosque...<br /><br />That would be president Voltron's policy.IrOnY RaGeDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415495177472751193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-71705448708416911462010-08-22T09:06:10.585-07:002010-08-22T09:06:10.585-07:00Volt, a couple of months ago I wrote a piece here ...Volt, a couple of months ago I wrote a piece here that was exceedingly critical of Muslim culture/history. And you know that I'm a strong supporter of Israel. I am in no way under strong illusions here. I just don't think that us declaring war on 1.4 billion human beings is necessarily the way to go. For instance, are we going to declare war on Bosnia (a country that we recently liberated), Iraq (we just got done liberating them - supposedly), Turkey (a long time ally)? I mean, seriously, this could be quite an undertaking......Muhammad, yes, he probably was a tough customer at times. But he had to be. He was getting his butt kicked unmercifully by pagans and it was all about survival. Yes, he started some wars but, yeah, so, too, did the God-fearing Christians of the world. I mean, come on. We decimated one continent and leached off another for cheap slave labor. The "Christians" invaded India (the Brits), the Congo (the Belgian), South Africa (the Dutch), Algiers and Vietnam (the French). To say that only the Muslims have been wreaking havoc is to totally ignore history......Actually, Volt, the Muslims treated their Jewish population best when their empire was strong. It was during its downfall that the pogroms and persecutions started. This, though, yes, I do agree with you, if the Jews of Israel ever came under Muslim control today, the results would probably be different.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-63904741201659633852010-08-21T23:16:35.371-07:002010-08-21T23:16:35.371-07:00And for those who don't want to get dirty, how...And for those who don't want to get dirty, how about this for policy:<br /><br />For every terrorist attack we launch a few cruise missles and take out a mosque?<br /><br />We could start with Al Aqsa, the jews have been wanting to rebuild their Temple Mount anyway.<br /><br />Maybe Medina as a second?<br /><br />We could reserve Mecca for something special...IrOnY RaGeDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415495177472751193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-63618959572150722872010-08-21T23:11:23.579-07:002010-08-21T23:11:23.579-07:00More good reading if you want to understand Islam:...More good reading if you want to understand Islam:<br /><br /><a href="http://prophetofdoom.net/" rel="nofollow">Prophet of Doom</a>IrOnY RaGeDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415495177472751193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-50023142157818988002010-08-21T23:07:24.606-07:002010-08-21T23:07:24.606-07:00And before anyone else chimes in, much like everyo...And before anyone else chimes in, much like everyone else I'm not saying they don't have a right to legally build there.<br /><br />But if their true intention were to build goodwill and provide outreach, wouldn't they understand our sensitivity to the subject and move it? Especially after all the outrage it's caused so far?IrOnY RaGeDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415495177472751193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-16566017858737523882010-08-21T22:52:54.657-07:002010-08-21T22:52:54.657-07:00Will,
If you've never read anything I've ...Will,<br /><br />If you've never read anything I've ever linked to before, PLEASE read this:<br /><br /><a href="http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/08/battalions-of-islam.html#readfurther" rel="nofollow">The Battalions of Islam</a> <br /><br /><br />And <a href="http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Gates of Vienna</a> is a good read if you want to know what's happening regarding Islam in Europe.IrOnY RaGeDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415495177472751193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1327826536005692170.post-169896474351887532010-08-21T22:45:12.504-07:002010-08-21T22:45:12.504-07:00Will,
You had to know we'd be butting heads o...Will,<br /><br />You had to know we'd be butting heads on this one...LOL<br /><br />The one thing that pisses me off most about the conservative crowd is their PC narrative about this.<br /><br />Hannity, Limbaugh, Palin, etc. all make the claim that we're at war with "radical" Islam. Well, from what I've seen and read there is no other kind.<br /><br />Muhammad was a perverted, lecherous, barbaric, cruel pirate.<br />His "religion" for centuries has been perpetuated and expanded by the sword. His life was one big orgy of bloodshed, violence, demon possession and rape. <br /><br />If there are "peaceful" muslims out there, either they are uneducated, lazy or cowardly.<br /><br />The one thing Allah hates most is a muslim who will not jihad. So their own god hates their guts.<br /><br />The terrorist leadership are not poor or illiterate. Most came from well to do homes, and are well educated. Most attended college.<br />They KNOW what the quran says and requires them to do, more so than the layperson does.<br /><br />If we're not at war with Islam in general, we NEED to be. Islam is a poison that I think many would leave if the penalty weren't death.<br /><br />Islam has been mostly peaceful where it doesn't currently have the upper hand. When they get enough in positions of power, or when their numbers are high enough, or both then they turn to violence and conquest.<br /><br />If you think I'm kidding, look at what's going on in Europe. Britain, France and Denmark in particular. Most of the other nordic countries in general as well.<br /><br />I stand by what I said on the LC board when I quoted Ann Coulter:<br /><br />"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."<br /><br />Note that the first reason the Ground Zero mosque was proposed was because there were no other mosques nearby that they could worship at.<br /><br />Now that we know there are several in the area, we need to allow it to prove our commitment to religious freedom. And of course now it's going to be a "multi-faith" community center.<br /><br />BULLSHIT!<br /><br />They would build ON ground zero in a heartbeat if they thought they could get away with it.<br /><br />This mosque can ONLY be a triumph memorial, much like the Al Aqsa in Israel. (and that isn't the only place that's been done.)<br /><br />We keep being told we need to be tolerant. We need to tolerate this, we need to tolerate that.<br /><br />ENOUGH! THEY need to tolerate US just frickin ONCE for a change.<br /><br />There is NO WAY in hell that this mosque will aid in understanding or help build any bridges between us. A vast majority of people don't want it and will resent it.<br /><br />Their insistence on building the damnned thing will get them back in spades the opposite of the one thing they claim it will do.<br /><br />Yet still they push.<br /><br />I wonder why?IrOnY RaGeDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15415495177472751193noreply@blogger.com